Anthony MD Posted August 11 Author Share #261 Posted August 11 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 minutes ago, pedaes said: We need to know if this guy is for real - buys a RAW only camera with no way of post processing. Do people do that, and then fuss about the 'look'? Not sure! I can edit the RAW DNG files on my Mac desk top. Very lucky for me that they were both made in 2016…! Edited August 11 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anthony MD Posted August 11 Author Share #262 Posted August 11 44 minutes ago, pedaes said: We need to know if this guy is for real - buys a RAW only camera with no way of post processing. Do people do that, and then fuss about the 'look'? Not sure! You can edit RAW DNG files…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted August 11 Share #263 Posted August 11 42 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: I can edit the RAW DNG files on my Mac desk top. jeez! You indicated you could not. Learn to do it properly then and good luck and good bye! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 11 Share #264 Posted August 11 4 minutes ago, pedaes said: jeez! You indicated you could not. Learn to do it properly then and good luck and good bye! Don’t feed the troll! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted August 11 Author Share #265 Posted August 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, pedaes said: Apologies, I had forgotten that. Unprocessed RAW is worse than j-peg in appearance. You really need to take stock as a RAW only camera does not fit with an unprocessed workflow. Or are just messing us about? Correction: The Leica M-D 262 shoots compressed loss-less DNG…! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 11 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422852-leica-look/?do=findComment&comment=5846785'>More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted August 11 Author Share #266 Posted August 11 4 minutes ago, earleygallery said: Don’t feed the troll! I said I could, simple English…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted August 11 Author Share #267 Posted August 11 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, pedaes said: jeez! You indicated you could not. Learn to do it properly then and good luck and good bye! This is what I use in post processing. It’s what’s built in my desk top. I said I could not download Capture One or Light Room…🥸 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422852-leica-look/?do=findComment&comment=5846802'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 11 Share #268 Posted August 11 Good Lord! Any hacker could walk into that computer blindfolded! And now you put things like serial number and configuration on the Internet. I hope you don’t do private and banking stuff on it. I’ll delete that attachment. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted August 11 Author Share #269 Posted August 11 (edited) 58 minutes ago, jaapv said: Good Lord! Any hacker could walk into that computer blindfolded! And now you put things like serial number and configuration on the Internet. I hope you don’t do private and banking stuff on it. I’ll delete that attachment. Not connected with any financial accounts, but thanks for your concern…! Edited August 11 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 11 Share #270 Posted August 11 4 hours ago, Anthony MD said: Correction: The Leica M-D 262 shoots compressed loss-less DNG…! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The point you seem to be missing is that a .dng file is an un-rendered image, it is the raw image data, not complied into a pleasing image through Leica firmware as a JPEG, and in need of user editing or software editing to do simple things like correct brightness, contrast, colour, etc. This is the back end of being a photographer, knowing these things, knowing when something isn’t right, and knowing when a raw .dng file needs editing to be transformed like a butterfly emerging from a chrysalis. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 11 Share #271 Posted August 11 Nobody prints images from film these days, do they? They just leave them as the negative - it's more natural and encourages the photographer to develop their skills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzajl Posted August 11 Share #272 Posted August 11 5 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: Nobody prints images from film these days, do they? They just leave them as the negative - it's more natural and encourages the photographer to develop their skills. I have always dreamed of shooting 10x8, so I can have decent sized pics and the crispness of contact prints. That's the closest I've got 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 11 Share #273 Posted August 11 15 minutes ago, Dazzajl said: I have always dreamed of shooting 10x8, so I can have decent sized pics and the crispness of contact prints. That's the closest I've got That's my ambition as well! I like the cheapskate approach: print an image in negative monochrome onto A4 acetate transparency (you can buy it for inkjet) and then make cyanotypes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted August 15 Author Share #274 Posted August 15 (edited) Peter Karbe explains the Leica Look is how the designers make the lens by controlling the wave lengths of light not to distort…👀 Edited August 15 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 15 Share #275 Posted August 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anthony MD said: Peter Karbe explains the Leica Look is how the designers make the lens by controlling the wave lengths of light not to distort…👀 So do you think all the other lens manufacturers do it an entirely different way and don’t understand? So other manufacturers missed this in the decades of lens development between all of them? Given you couldn’t tell the difference between a 50mm Voigtlander and a 50mm Leica from a photograph why do you insist on this BS? Edited August 15 by 250swb Changed it because it’s questionable if BS is a question or an accusation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 15 Share #276 Posted August 15 Well, that’s time spent reading 14 pages of nonsense I won’t get back (even without reading the OP’s posts - but I get the drift). Leica look - can I have what you’re smoking? There’s a lot of myth and marketing hype in this forum about Leica this and Leica that which, to my mind, obstructs what they do really well. When I bought my first Leica, I had forgotten about the rangefinder and I really didn’t know much about the lenses. It was the straightforward presentation of a well made camera with direct, physical controls of what matters and the reasonably well hidden electronic parts which attracted me; manual focus, aperture ring and shutter dial all nicely packaged. When I bought my M9, I had no idea about the lenses and simply accepted the recommendation from Meister Berlin to buy the 35 Summicron ASPH. I just assumed that everything else would be up to standard, and I was right. To be honest, I thought my Nikon lenses were as good for what they did. I expected the Leica lens to be good, and I liked the camera. In truth, I think a top of the range lens from any of the top makers is as good as any other in practice. None of them are “bad lenses”. I do applaud Leica for the fact that we can use almost 100 years of lenses on the latest M camera, and each has character. But a consistent “Leica Look”? Stuff and nonsense. Leica glow does exist, along with so many other aberrations, but that is another topic, along with veiling flare, coma, focus shift, soft corners and barrel and moustache distortion. Keep smoking! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted August 15 Author Share #277 Posted August 15 (edited) 24 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said: Well, that’s time spent reading 14 pages of nonsense I won’t get back (even without reading the OP’s posts - but I get the drift). Leica look - can I have what you’re smoking? There’s a lot of myth and marketing hype in this forum about Leica this and Leica that which, to my mind, obstructs what they do really well. When I bought my first Leica, I had forgotten about the rangefinder and I really didn’t know much about the lenses. It was the straightforward presentation of a well made camera with direct, physical controls of what matters and the reasonably well hidden electronic parts which attracted me; manual focus, aperture ring and shutter dial all nicely packaged. When I bought my M9, I had no idea about the lenses and simply accepted the recommendation from Meister Berlin to buy the 35 Summicron ASPH. I just assumed that everything else would be up to standard, and I was right. To be honest, I thought my Nikon lenses were as good for what they did. I expected the Leica lens to be good, and I liked the camera. In truth, I think a top of the range lens from any of the top makers is as good as any other in practice. None of them are “bad lenses”. I do applaud Leica for the fact that we can use almost 100 years of lenses on the latest M camera, and each has character. But a consistent “Leica Look”? Stuff and nonsense. Leica glow does exist, along with so many other aberrations, but that is another topic, along with veiling flare, coma, focus shift, soft corners and barrel and moustache distortion. Keep smoking! What are you smoking It was a video…😁 Edited August 15 by Anthony MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLR Posted August 16 Share #278 Posted August 16 Peter Karbe on Why Leica Lenses Are So Special Interesting interview. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 16 Share #279 Posted August 16 7 hours ago, Anthony MD said: Peter Karbe explains the Leica Look is how the designers make the lens by controlling the wave lengths of light not to distort…👀 Sounds like King Canute to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted August 16 Share #280 Posted August 16 3 hours ago, BLR said: Peter Karbe on Why Leica Lenses Are So Special Interesting interview. I don’t think anyone doubts they are special, for what they are … 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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