Ivar B Posted May 9 Share #1 Posted May 9 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I feel sorry for US Leica users, who may be in need of equipment made in China. Just checked the price of an SL3 battery - USD 380, about twice what we pay here. This is what tariffs do, and some americans apparently believe they will not have to pay and that it will be paid by the exporter. For other items price increases are more modest - around 10 %. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 9 by Ivar B Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421099-leica-us-pricing/?do=findComment&comment=5798894'>More sharing options...
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Photoworks Posted May 9 Share #2 Posted May 9 Fun times! +90% Same price for M11 battery! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted May 9 Share #3 Posted May 9 (edited) This extends to Canada as well because Leica insists on shipping first to NJ from which product is distributed to dealers in Canada. So we get nailed with the tarriffs despite being in no trade war with Germany or China. Absolutely ludicrous and unacceptable and Leica Wetzlar had better pull their finger out or you can bet they will be boycotted en masse and lose Canadian sales of product in significant amounts. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that Leica Germany cannot ship directly to Canada and avoid this nonsense. I for one refuse to buy any new Leica product until this issue is resolved. Edited May 9 by jplomley 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 9 Author Share #4 Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, jplomley said: This extends to Canada as well because Leica insists on shipping first to NJ from which product is distributed to dealers in Canada. So we get nailed with the tarriffs despite being in no trade war with Germany or China. Absolutely ludicrous and unacceptable and Leica Wetzlar had better pull their finger out or you can bet they will be boycotted en masse and lose Canadian sales of product in significant amounts. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that Leica Germany cannot ship directly to Canada and avoid this nonsense. I for one refuse to buy any new Leica product until this issue is resolved. This is so obvious so they will find a solution. I see that Sigma also increases prices due to the tariff, and I guess that Chinese producers such as 7Artisans and others will not serve the US until tariffs come down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9 Share #5 Posted May 9 25 minutes ago, jplomley said: This extends to Canada as well because Leica insists on shipping first to NJ from which product is distributed to dealers in Canada. So we get nailed with the tarriffs despite being in no trade war with Germany or China. Absolutely ludicrous and unacceptable and Leica Wetzlar had better pull their finger out or you can bet they will be boycotted en masse and lose Canadian sales of product in significant amounts. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that Leica Germany cannot ship directly to Canada and avoid this nonsense. I for one refuse to buy any new Leica product until this issue is resolved. We all know that the worldwide shipping system is completely snarled up by the present shenanigans. Expecting instant rerouting of existing supply lines is a bit naive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 9 Share #6 Posted May 9 3 hours ago, Ivar B said: I feel sorry for US Leica users, who may be in need of equipment made in China. Just checked the price of an SL3 battery - USD 380, about twice what we pay here. This is what tariffs do, and some americans apparently believe they will not have to pay and that it will be paid by the exporter. For other items price increases are more modest - around 10 %. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Only if it’s shipped from China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted May 9 Share #7 Posted May 9 Advertisement (gone after registration) 45 minutes ago, jaapv said: We all know that the worldwide shipping system is completely snarled up by the present shenanigans. Expecting instant rerouting of existing supply lines is a bit naive. It’s not shenanigans. It’s demanding fairness. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9 Share #8 Posted May 9 Well, that is an opinion (and a political one…!) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted May 9 Share #9 Posted May 9 46 minutes ago, jaapv said: We all know that the worldwide shipping system is completely snarled up by the present shenanigans. Expecting instant rerouting of existing supply lines is a bit naive. Leica isn't sending full shipping containers to Canada. They aren't selling cheap outdoor furniture and off-brand Bermuda shorts. They just need to do what every other brand does in Canada: rent a small warehouse space near Pearson (Toronto) Airport. If they don't care to do that, they can contract-out to an existing photo distributor. On a related note, I heard long ago that there was bad blood between Leica and their former distributor (who went bankrupt just before the photo sales boom of the early 2000s). This supposedly was the reason why we were being starved of product. Anybody know more? This was told to me by a salesman, now retired, who had a number of Leica customers but couldn't get any stock from the US importer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9 Share #10 Posted May 9 All that, and comply with customs and shipping regulations if only for the batteries, get their contracts with UPS etc in order, get the retailers organized etc. And all that in a situation when every second manufacturer and distributor is doing so. It is not like sending a box of chocolates to your Aunty Priscilla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 9 Author Share #11 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, jaapv said: We all know that the worldwide shipping system is completely snarled up by the present shenanigans. Expecting instant rerouting of existing supply lines is a bit naive. Just changing shipping route should be no problem. We are not talking about production site here. I guess shipping through the US in the past was just for convenience. But even shipping through the US should not attract tariffs. There are facilities all over the world where goods are temporarily stored in a customs facility in a 2nd nation before being forwarded to final destination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted May 9 Share #12 Posted May 9 I don't think that shipping logistics is the major hangup for Canada. Leica ships stock worldwide every day. They already have retailers in Canada, who are starved for stock. The main issue, as it has been for decades, is that Leica needs to treat Canada as a worthwhile market that is separate from the US. Up until recently, Leica's US distributor could argue that sales lost by Canadian dealers probably went to B&H and other US stores, so they didn't care. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivar B Posted May 9 Author Share #13 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, jdlaing said: Only if it’s shipped from China. No, this is the US listing from BH Photo Video. Tariffs are levied according to rules of origin (where goods are made). Where goods are shipping from, is irrelevant. Shipping through a 2nd nation with lower tariffs than producer nation, is smuggling and illegal (although that is not to say that many don`t try). We have had some cases like this in Norway where goods imported from China had a lower tariff rate than China and the EU, and goods were reexported free of tariff to the EU. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted May 9 Share #14 Posted May 9 20 minutes ago, BernardC said: I don't think that shipping logistics is the major hangup for Canada. Leica ships stock worldwide every day. They already have retailers in Canada, who are starved for stock. The main issue, as it has been for decades, is that Leica needs to treat Canada as a worthwhile market that is separate from the US. Up until recently, Leica's US distributor could argue that sales lost by Canadian dealers probably went to B&H and other US stores, so they didn't care. I recently wrote to Leica (Germany) suggesting that they re-establish a Canadian presence in Canada. I received a prompt reply : "We can confirm that the tariff price adjustment will impact the Canadian market similarly to the U.S., as Leica Camera North America operates out of the U.S., with all imports managed through its U.S. headquarters before reaching Canada. While the current tariff timeline prevents structural changes for now, Leica Camera North America is actively exploring ways to better support Canadian customers, including the possibility of establishing Canada as its own subsidiary within Leica’s global sales network" I would suggest that Canadian members might also contact Leica to support that possibility, or even moving all of Leica North-America to Canada! 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted May 9 Share #15 Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, Jean-Michel said: While the current tariff timeline prevents structural changes for now, Leica Camera North America is actively exploring ways to better support Canadian customers, including the possibility of establishing Canada as its own subsidiary within Leica’s global sales network That's great. I'm sure that every Canadian photo distributor contacted them in the past few weeks. As I said before, there's no reason why European mid-sized cities should have more Leica items in-stock than all of Canada. If Montpellier can sustain a Leica boutique, why can't Halifax, Winnipeg, Vancouver, etc.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted May 9 Share #16 Posted May 9 More Leica product is sold out of Camtec Photo in Montreal than anywhere else. They have been a rock solid dealer for several decades and I have been a loyal customer since 2001. It is indeed time for Leica to set up shop in Canada, ideally in Montreal given the enormous user base and extensive sales. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted May 9 Share #17 Posted May 9 3 hours ago, Ivar B said: This is so obvious so they will find a solution. I see that Sigma also increases prices due to the tariff, and I guess that Chinese producers such as 7Artisans and others will not serve the US until tariffs come down. Sigma Canada already exists and I therefore would not expect the tariffs to impact prices. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted May 9 Share #18 Posted May 9 8 minutes ago, jplomley said: More Leica product is sold out of Camtec Photo in Montreal than anywhere else. They have been a rock solid dealer for several decades and I have been a loyal customer since 2001. It is indeed time for Leica to set up shop in Canada, ideally in Montreal given the enormous user base and extensive sales. I've bought stuff from Camtec, they are a good dealer. However, they are the only dealer in Montreal, and they have limited stock. Other Canadian cities don't fare as well. I think that Vistek and Downtown Camera might have a few items in Toronto, then it's almost 3,000 km to Calgary, and then Vancouver. I may have missed some stores in that list, but do they have anything in stock? Back when I was in university there were three Leica dealers in Ottawa alone, all with stock. Unfortunately I couldn't afford a new Leica body or lens back then, but surely there is a market for at least one dealer in each 1 million+ population centre? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9 Share #19 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Ivar B said: Just changing shipping route should be no problem. We are not talking about production site here. I guess shipping through the US in the past was just for convenience. But even shipping through the US should not attract tariffs. There are facilities all over the world where goods are temporarily stored in a customs facility in a 2nd nation before being forwarded to final destination. No idea whether that works in the USA right now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted May 9 Share #20 Posted May 9 20 minutes ago, jplomley said: Sigma Canada already exists and I therefore would not expect the tariffs to impact prices. Yes, I received a note from Sigma Canada confirming this. And, yeas, I also find Camtec staff to be very helpful and knowledgeable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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