AlexAkme Posted April 20 Share #1 Posted April 20 Advertisement (gone after registration) Камера была вынуждена у меня обманом в 1992-м году в Сов.Союзе, и далее была реализована на аукционе в г.Орландо. За бешеные деньги. Мне просто хотелось бы иметь хотя бы её изображение, ведь ею было сделано столько замечательных снимков! К сожалению, не записал её номер. Был бы благодарен за какую-либо информацию о ней! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted April 20 Share #2 Posted April 20 English please Quote The camera (lens?) was forcibly taken from me by deception in 1992 in the Soviet Union, and then it was sold at an auction in Orlando. For a lot of money. I just wish I had at least a picture of it, because it took so many wonderful pictures! Unfortunately, I did not write down its number. Would be grateful for any information about it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAkme Posted April 20 Author Share #3 Posted April 20 The camera was taken from me by a clever trick in 1992 in the post-Soviet Union, and then sold at auction in Orlando. For a lot of money. I wish I could have at least photographed it, because it took so many great pictures! Unfortunately, I did not write down its serial number. I would be grateful for any information about it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAkme Posted April 20 Author Share #4 Posted April 20 19 minutes ago, jaapv said: Английский пожалуйста The camera was taken from me by a clever trick in 1992 in the post-Soviet Union, and then sold at auction in Orlando. For a lot of money. I wish I could have at least photographed it, because it took so many great pictures! Unfortunately, I did not write down its serial number. I would be grateful for any information about it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 20 Share #5 Posted April 20 What camera? You tagged Summitar 50 which is a lens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAkme Posted April 21 Author Share #6 Posted April 21 The Leica-lll-c-K- camera was sold for $36,000. Rumor has it that Marshal De Gaulle gave this camera with this lens to military photographer Anatoly Egorov. And he sold it to me inexpensively, because he knew my grandfather well (before retirement, Egorov worked as a fixer in the Kazan Kremlin). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 21 Share #7 Posted April 21 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well yes that is an interesting camera especially if the provenance can be documented. We have some notable collectors here they might be able to commeant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted April 21 Share #8 Posted April 21 (edited) If you know for a fact that this specific camera was sold at a public auction, then the serial number should be available in the auction catalog. You will have to reach out to the auction house if it still exists or alternatively local Orlando libraries that may hold copies of the catalogues in their collections. This data would certainly help your quest for further information. You may also want to disclose the purpose for seeking information about the camera. In the unlikely event that the current or previous owners read this thread, I imagine they may be reluctant to weigh in with info if your intention is to claim ownership and get the camera back. Edited April 21 by nitroplait 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAkme Posted April 21 Author Share #9 Posted April 21 Thank you very much for your response, I will not demand the camera back, people (new owners) paid money for it, and not a small amount for 1992. Let them have fun. I will try (although I doubt success) to search for auctions on Orlando websites, but if it was closed (which is most likely), I don’t know. In principle, to remember this camera, a friendly joint photo with the new owners would be enough, well, maybe a short video where I will tell (on video) my personal memories of this camera; about the former owner of this camera, I will show a photo portrait of this worthy and very famous person in the Soviet Union. With modern means of communication, these bandits with photo cappers on the side will also see this stream. And, perhaps, they will feel embarrassed for that act when they took this camera from me? At least they will not look for my loved ones to take revenge on me through them, which is already good. And I try not to think about the fact that this gang appropriated all my negatives (about 3000 pieces), and left me without even the scans, made mainly with this "Leica". The head of the region, also a former photographer, is personally interested in these crimes. There is a swamp there, and this is how they make their capital. I can recognize the photos that I took with this camera in the 1980-1990s. But those people whom I asked to save the scans I had, also... robbed me. Telling me that they did not copy anything, although I asked them to do so. And they all live in the European Union, this is the only thing that consoles me. Apparently, I have already been deprived of Russian citizenship. And my poor daughter, whom they (the authorities of Tatarstan) stole from me, was left, apparently, without a rich dowry. (Because there are such people as "Kazan photographers at the ready".) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 21 Share #10 Posted April 21 Alex, yours looks to be a very interesting story ... we are simply a Forum of Leica passionates, but are, generally speaking, a community pf people that are really open minded and curios about little pieces of history that, inthe most wide sense, are someway related to our passion, and that's because Leica was a name that encompassed the deeply complex history of world. I hope you can find the way to trace what happened to your camera... and can give you just a pair of simple hints : - Auction sales are often tracked... maybe some of our US members can know something about auctions made in Orlando in the '90s - By chance, have you the serial number of your former IIIck ? If so, Leica Camera could still give some info about its original delivery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 22 Share #11 Posted April 22 There cannot have been many auction houses in Orlando that would have handled an item like this; even if it does not exist anymore there must be a paper trail. How did you find out about the Orlando connection? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted April 22 Share #12 Posted April 22 On 4/21/2025 at 1:09 AM, AlexAkme said: The Leica-lll-c-K- camera was sold for $36,000. Rumor has it that Marshal De Gaulle gave this camera with this lens to military photographer Anatoly Egorov. And he sold it to me inexpensively, because he knew my grandfather well (before retirement, Egorov worked as a fixer in the Kazan Kremlin). List of some recent auctions here https://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Leitz/Leica-IIIc-K-grey.html https://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Leitz/Leica-IIIc-K.html I must assume that you have the serial number. William 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 23 Share #13 Posted April 23 20 hours ago, willeica said: I must assume that you have the serial number. On 4/20/2025 at 8:27 PM, AlexAkme said: Unfortunately, I did not write down its serial number. The OP has no chance of finding a camera that was sold at auction over 30 years ago. Especially if he hasn’t got the serial number. I’m a bit baffled as to what he wants to get out of this search, TBH. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted April 23 Share #14 Posted April 23 Yes... 🤒.. without a s/n any search is almost vain... though the Orlando reference, if found, could be still of help... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 24 Share #15 Posted April 24 On 4/21/2025 at 1:09 AM, AlexAkme said: The Leica-lll-c-K- camera was sold for $36,000. Rumor has it that Marshal De Gaulle gave this camera with this lens to military photographer Anatoly Egorov. And he sold it to me... In summary? Sometime post-1992 a Leica IIIc 'K' was sold at an auction in Orlando (apparently) for $36,000. A rumour suggests that way back in the past M-d-G had given this very same camera to A E and that sometime later he sold this camera to you but you were 'relieved' of the camera by 'a clever trick' in 1992. Sad to know that this story might well be true but without any sort of proof whatsoever to substantiate the 'facts' as claimed this tale is unlikely to go anywhere. Philip. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 25 Share #16 Posted April 25 There are only one or two auction houses in Orlando that would handle such an item. Maybe they could be of help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAkme Posted April 27 Author Share #17 Posted April 27 On 23.04.2025 at 12:53, andybarton said: У ОП нет шансов найти камеру, проданную на аукционе более 30 лет назад. Особенно, если у него нет серийного номера. Честно говоря, я немного озадачен тем, чего он хочет добиться этим поиском. How so? Firstly, not to achieve, but to publicise some dark corners through which some precious relics of some very respected people (I am not talking about myself) end up at auctions in not entirely honest ways. Well, and then one should never underestimate the possibilities of the collectors' psyche. Even if the chance of finding is 1:1,000,000, it makes sense to at least try, doesn't it? In conclusion of your very stern remark, I will say that publicity in my case is the only opportunity to "catch yesterday by the tail". (I hope you understand what I mean.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 27 Share #18 Posted April 27 It wasn’t a “stern remark”, just a realistic one. If you couldn’t find the camera at the time, you won’t find it 33 years later. Even if you could find a similar camera, you have no proof that it was the one taken from you. It’s time to let it go. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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