Ovid Posted March 25 Share #21 Posted March 25 Advertisement (gone after registration) When can we expect that review? Looking forward to it, always enjoying your videos! And this lens looks beautiful - I shouldn't have bought the 35mm nokton f1.5, can't justify two 35mm lenses😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-ph- Posted March 25 Share #22 Posted March 25 I have the lens and like it a lot, with one big caveat. I got the black version and unfortunately a M10 doesn't recognize that there is a lens attached as the back side of the lens is also pure black. Probably fixable by some bright paint, but otherwise one should prefer the silver version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 26 Share #23 Posted March 26 Are you sure there is no groove on the flange of the lens for pen coding? All modern CV lenses have one normally but i have no experience with your copy. If there is a groove, as i suspect it, it should suffice to paint white coding pits on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatch Posted March 26 Share #24 Posted March 26 (edited) 10 hours ago, -ph- said: I have the lens and like it a lot, with one big caveat. I got the black version and unfortunately a M10 doesn't recognize that there is a lens attached as the back side of the lens is also pure black. Probably fixable by some bright paint, but otherwise one should prefer the silver version. would turn off lens detection work around for black version? Edited March 26 by swatch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ph- Posted March 26 Share #25 Posted March 26 vor 9 Stunden schrieb lct: Are you sure there is no groove on the flange of the lens for pen coding? All modern CV lenses have one normally but i have no experience with your copy. If there is a groove, as i suspect it, it should suffice to paint white coding pits on it. Yes it has a a groove and applying some white paint made the camera recognize that there is a lens attached. I already printed some stencils and will do a proper lens coding as soon as I got proper pens with a permanent white color. I just wanted to forewarn people of a problem I never encountered before and it took me quite a while to recognize that the lens detection completely failed on a lens that black. I am a bit surprised that Voigtländer didn't plan for that. As a side comment: my other Voigtländer lenses have no groove at all, but I am still going to try to code them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ph- Posted March 26 Share #26 Posted March 26 vor einer Stunde schrieb swatch: would turn off lens detection work around for black version? Partially. First of all, in contrast to all other uncoded lenses it would claim that there is no lens attached and not activate live view at all. When I manually entered a focal length, it would activate live view, but the automatic focussing aid wouldn't trigger. And I would have to repeat that every time I switched on the camera again. Just applying some white paint to the lens fixes this problem and I am going to properly code it as I am at it. But if someone is undecided between which lens color to take as I was and doesn't want to tinker with his lens, the silver one might be preferable. Of course I like my black one now that I know how to fix this On a different note, I also recently bought the Laowa 15/5. It even has the 6 places pre-engraved on the lens. I wonder why Voigtländer doesn't do that with their lenses. It should not make manufacture much more complex but would be a huge benefit to all users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 26 Share #27 Posted March 26 Advertisement (gone after registration) 24 minutes ago, -ph- said: Yes it has a a groove and applying some white paint made the camera recognize that there is a lens attached. I already printed some stencils and will do a proper lens coding as soon as I got proper pens with a permanent white color. I just wanted to forewarn people of a problem I never encountered before and it took me quite a while to recognize that the lens detection completely failed on a lens that black. [...] Same issue with some black LTM to M adapters. On the M11, the camera displays "No lens" then. Disabling dust protection fixes the problem but better code the lens anyway as the camera needs to know the focal length of the lens for purposes like auto iso or perspective control. I have no experience with the M10 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ph- Posted March 26 Share #28 Posted March 26 vor 3 Stunden schrieb lct: Same issue with some black LTM to M adapters. On the M11, the camera displays "No lens" then. Disabling dust protection fixes the problem but better code the lens anyway as the camera needs to know the focal length of the lens for purposes like auto iso or perspective control. I have no experience with the M10 though. I wasn't so much concerned about the correct focal length but that e.g. live view wouldn't work until a lens was manually entered. This isn't necessary when the camera recognizes that a lens is attached even without the proper coding. But it seems that at least now the camera recognizes that a lens is attached and things work like with any uncoded lens - but for sure I will add the proper coding too. I am just awaiting delivery of a white pen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted March 26 Share #29 Posted March 26 Detailed review here https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1892484/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 27 Share #30 Posted March 27 The lens and the review look as if smallness was an aim for it‘s own sake. I don‘t agree with this concept. If you are asked to use the hood for setting the f-stops something feels wrong. I know this from the 1:2.8/35mm Biogon or even worse the 1:3.5/35mm Planar for the old Zeiss Ikon Contax. It may be fun for a while to do everything different as you are used to but I wouldn‘t like this for every day usage. The 35mm Summaron or the 1:2.5/35mm Summareit may look huge compared to this new lens, but really they aren‘t big at all and the handling is much more convenient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #31 Posted March 27 Am 25.3.2025 um 19:50 schrieb Ovid: When can we expect that review? Looking forward to it, always enjoying your videos! And this lens looks beautiful - I shouldn't have bought the 35mm nokton f1.5, can't justify two 35mm lenses😁 I hope I find the time to record and post it next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #32 Posted March 27 Am 25.3.2025 um 23:59 schrieb -ph-: unfortunately a M10 doesn't recognize that there is a lens attached as the back side of the lens is also pure black I noticed the same thing back then with the Voigtländer Heliar 40mm f/2.8. I came to the conclusion that it must have something to do with the black coating. This phenomenon does not occur with the Leica M11 because the shutter of the M11 is designed differently from that of the Leica M10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted March 27 Share #33 Posted March 27 56 minutes ago, Mefty said: I noticed the same thing back then with the Voigtländer Heliar 40mm f/2.8. I came to the conclusion that it must have something to do with the black coating. This phenomenon does not occur with the Leica M11 because the shutter of the M11 is designed differently from that of the Leica M10. What has the shutter got to do with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #34 Posted March 27 vor 23 Minuten schrieb pedaes: What has the shutter got to do with it? The shutter itself has nothing directly to do with it, that is correct. Rather, the M10, unlike the M11, only opens the shutter when using the rear display, enabling direct photography via the display, i.e., live view. The M10 first checks whether a lens is attached. My strong suspicion is that the black coating confuses the code reader, making the camera think no lens is attached. That’s why I briefly referred to the shutter, which, strictly speaking, is not entirely accurate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #35 Posted March 27 (edited) You can easily test this yourself. If you take a piece of aluminum foil, for example, and place it in between the code reader and the lens mount, you will no longer experience this effect. The M10 will no longer complain. Of course, this is not an ideal or recommended solution. Edited March 27 by Mefty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 27 Share #36 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, UliWer said: [...] If you are asked to use the hood for setting the f-stops something feels wrong [...] I don't know how it works but there is an aperture ring that can turn alone when the lens hood is off i guess. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419249-voigtlander-color-skopar-35mm-f35/?do=findComment&comment=5777881'>More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #37 Posted March 27 (edited) vor 7 Minuten schrieb lct: I don't know how it works but there is an aperture ring that can turn alone when the lens hood is off i guess. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The lens has a dedicated aperture ring. The lens hood is simply clipped onto this. However, the lens hood is not strictly necessary for adjusting the aperture. Edited March 27 by Mefty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #38 Posted March 27 vor 4 Stunden schrieb UliWer: If you are asked to use the hood for setting the f-stops As I mentioned above, the lens hood is not strictly necessary. It might make handling easier for some, but I have to say that the aperture ring is still very easy to reach and operate without it. I’ve been using this lens for the past few days both with and without the hood, and I still haven’t decided which setup I prefer. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 27 Share #39 Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Mefty said: The lens has a dedicated aperture ring. [...] Looks more handy than LTM Elmar 35/3.5 or early Summaron 35/3.5 then. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419249-voigtlander-color-skopar-35mm-f35/?do=findComment&comment=5777890'>More sharing options...
Mefty Posted March 27 Share #40 Posted March 27 vor 11 Minuten schrieb lct: Looks more handy than LTM Elmar 35/3.5 or early Summaron 35/3.5 then. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! never tried the LTM ELmar or Summaron so can not say anything about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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