jaapv Posted February 19 Share #161 Posted February 19 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, mpauliks said: Yes, but others can do it automatic now! Gimme a sec. Will update post here. The S5 could but it was removed from the S5Ii. Reason I kept my S5. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mpauliks Posted February 19 Share #162 Posted February 19 (edited) vor einer Stunde schrieb jaapv: Use manual shutter speed and compare the histograms. I did manual focus stacking long before it became a camera feature. Just take a number of differently focused shots and use Photomerge. Hard job Sir! But I would say now, after importing to LRc. It is an EXIF error only. It seems to use actually F22. But super hard to tell! Anyway histrogram and 300% view look different. Though on tripod, etc. Images look different in sharpness IMO. Below crop only please. So, I am assuming it did use F22 and F16! Yes images are different. Both at 1.0 sec @LeicaRFan Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 19 by mpauliks 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418736-the-leica-sl3-s-review-by-jonathan-slack/?do=findComment&comment=5759730'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 19 Share #163 Posted February 19 Well at 1 second and 300% some motion blur cannot be ruled out, even on the best tripod. Well done this test, thanks So, if only an EXIF error there will be no photographic consequences. I’m sure the bug will be fixed in some future update, but even if not, no real harm done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted February 20 Share #164 Posted February 20 (edited) SL3-S is up on Photons. https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm Sweet spot is ISO 75 according to lab. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 20 by mpauliks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418736-the-leica-sl3-s-review-by-jonathan-slack/?do=findComment&comment=5760850'>More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted February 21 Share #165 Posted February 21 (edited) If I understand charts correct, SL3-S is a low light monster...? lol @SrMi Edited February 21 by mpauliks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted February 21 Share #166 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, mpauliks said: If I understand charts correct, SL3-S is a low light monster...? lol @SrMi The PDR vs. ISO graph indicates that SL3-S's low-light capability is similar to that of SL3. The native ISO is 100, but strangely, ISO 64 (outside the normal analog range) delivers a better PDR than the native ISO. I have not studied SL3-S behavior below the native ISO, but traditionally, the Leica SL and Q ranges behave a bit strangely when shooting below the native ISO. The PDR graphs of S5 II and SL3 are very similar, but SL3-S deviates quite a bit in the lower ISO range. It seems that SL3-S has 2/3 of a stop less PDR at native ISO. The shadow improvement vs. ISO graphs indicate that SL3-S is "ISO-invariant" starting with ISO 640, while SL3's invariant range starts around ISO 400. SL3-S adds in-camera NR starting with ISO 6400, while SL3 starts NR a bit higher at ISO 8000. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptSlevin Posted February 21 Share #167 Posted February 21 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, mpauliks said: If I understand charts correct, SL3-S is a low light monster...? lol @SrMi Low light monster worse than SL2S of 2021. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418736-the-leica-sl3-s-review-by-jonathan-slack/?do=findComment&comment=5760914'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted February 21 Share #168 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, CptSlevin said: Low light monster worse than SL2S of 2021. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Well that is much easier to understand thank you Captain. I have been working on these graphs to comprehend the science of sensors to get a sense of how the camera exposes for the images I create. I am very appreciative of the members experience here, one cant access this type of info anywhere else without being completely confused by the scientific descriptions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted February 21 Share #169 Posted February 21 The PDR vs ISO graphs are the most misinterpreted data on P2P 😄. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpauliks Posted February 21 Share #170 Posted February 21 vor 8 Stunden schrieb CptSlevin: Low light monster worse than SL2S of 2021. ...PDR Chart... Not by this PDR chart. But if you take this PDR chart in combination with the other measurement charts from Photons, it seems to me SL3-S offers a pretty fine mix for low light. Though SL2-S is a super fine cam of course too! However compared to SL3, SL3-S seems to my understanding really great for low light! E.g. noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted February 21 Share #171 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, mpauliks said: Not by this PDR chart. But if you take this PDR chart in combination with the other measurement charts from Photons, it seems to me SL3-S offers a pretty fine mix for low light. Though SL2-S is a super fine cam of course too! However compared to SL3, SL3-S seems to my understanding really great for low light! E.g. noise. The beauty of the 24mp sensor I would say. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALScott Posted February 23 Share #172 Posted February 23 (edited) On 2/20/2025 at 9:44 PM, CptSlevin said: Low light monster worse than SL2S of 2021. Cool. Let's all live and die by rando graphs from whatever source rather than looking at the actual images. Plus, wasn't it supposed to be the "same" sensor but now different? Edited February 23 by ALScott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted February 24 Share #173 Posted February 24 On 2/23/2025 at 3:12 AM, ALScott said: Cool. Let's all live and die by rando graphs from whatever source rather than looking at the actual images. Plus, wasn't it supposed to be the "same" sensor but now different? PDAF was enabled on the same 24MP sensor used in the SL2-S. But for some and Leica marketing, this defines a "new sensor" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 24 Share #174 Posted February 24 It has to be - the AF pixels have changed. The sensors are certainly not interchangeable. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptSlevin Posted February 25 Share #175 Posted February 25 On 2/23/2025 at 11:12 AM, ALScott said: Cool. Let's all live and die by rando graphs from whatever source rather than looking at the actual images. Plus, wasn't it supposed to be the "same" sensor but now different? Make a comparison of the same scene with SL2S and SL3S on all ISO and push / pull them and prove your theory that it's not the same or worse DR. I am waiting To me graphs and Photon to photos are more accurate tool of measurement than internet debate with Leica SL3S fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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