Olaf_ZG Posted January 18 Share #1 Posted January 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) So, today I went out with my new m8. All went well, except that after cca 15min both my batteries died. It was freezing cold, so that could be the reason. At current I am recharging them. All images look ok, except for the last one, see below. Is this caused due to an empty battery or should I return the camera (which I can still do)? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418672-my-battery-went-empty-and-this-was-the-result%E2%80%A6/?do=findComment&comment=5742139'>More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted January 18 Share #2 Posted January 18 The readout of one half of the sensor failed, which can well be due to a failing battery especially in the cold but a sensor fault cannot be ruled out, so I would notify my dealer and in consultation wait whether the problem repeats. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 18 Author Share #3 Posted January 18 Thanks. Notified the dealer and will test tomorrow again. I assume if it is a failed sensor, I will see it tomorrow, or can such failure be sporadic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 18 Share #4 Posted January 18 (edited) I had two M8.2s and used one or the other in freezing temps from time to time. FWIW, I always kept an extra battery in pocket or small bag, alternating if needed, but never had total freezes in 15 min. Are batteries new? If so, I would be wary, and concur with Jaap. Edit… given last pic, I would also try a different card. Edited January 18 by Jeff S 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 18 Author Share #5 Posted January 18 59 minutes ago, Jeff S said: I had two M8.2s and used one or the other in freezing temps from time to time. FWIW, I always kept an extra battery in pocket or small bag, alternating if needed, but never had total freezes in 15 min. Are batteries new? If so, I would be wary, and concur with Jaap. Edit… given last pic, I would also try a different card. One older battery which won’t be loaded full anymore, one new battery which looked full but proofed to be empty. I used a sandisk 32gb card, but will replace it with the oldest I have, a 16gb. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeetona Posted January 18 Share #6 Posted January 18 Lots of room for McKinsey-style problem-solving I would say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 18 Share #7 Posted January 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Olaf_ZG said: Thanks. Notified the dealer and will test tomorrow again. I assume if it is a failed sensor, I will see it tomorrow, or can such failure be sporadic? Not really. Normally if it fails, it fails. But never say never. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 18 Author Share #8 Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Deeetona said: Lots of room for McKinsey-style problem-solving I would say. No thanks, don’t need a bunch of kids in suits with excel sheets coming over. I rather rely on the advice from seniors in this forum… 😜 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 18 Share #9 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Jeff S said: I would also try a different card. Given that it is a half-sensor failure I doubt that it is the card. More like the read-out controller or ADC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted January 18 Share #10 Posted January 18 (edited) I think, the way how the camera meters the battery state of charge is a bit weird. You should go through a full cycle with the batteries (completely discharge, as you have done now and after that a full recharge over night). After that the charge indicater should become more reliable again and I expect them to last for many more shots. Also the way, how the CCD sensor is read out and how the data are written to the card, seems to be a bit weird sometimes and may work with flaws when the battery state of charge becomes low. I also saw sporadically photos like that on my M8.2. Also the shutter may not go through the full cycle when battery is empty. So you should continue to monitor it when the batteries are full again and use a slow memory card. Edited January 18 by 3D-Kraft.com 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted January 18 Share #11 Posted January 18 I’ve seen similar with my M9 at the end of a cold winter day with battery running low. It was fine with a new warm battery. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritsch-Ralph-Klick Posted January 18 Share #12 Posted January 18 Same observation with me. I have had similar artefacts with weak batteries on my final photos, especially during cold sessions. I first observed these issues already 15 years ago and again lately. Just make sure that your batteries are loaded completely. Furthermore, I downgraded my sd-card from 16gb to 8 gb. No proof, if this is a potential cause. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 19 Author Share #13 Posted January 19 Thanks all for feedback. Yesterday evening I took some images to check the sensor, the were ok, except the last one when the battery died. Went out today, took about 150 images till the battery died. It was less cold than yesterday. None of the images showed this behavior, not even when the battery died and its last image. So, the strange banding might happen when the battery is done. For sure, one out of three batteries is really bad: after ten images it dies. As I bought some new ones, this shouldn’t be a problem. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted January 19 Share #14 Posted January 19 Good to hear that it turned out well. Enjoy your M8! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted January 20 Share #15 Posted January 20 On 1/18/2025 at 10:35 AM, Olaf_ZG said: So, today I went out with my new m8. All went well, except that after cca 15min both my batteries died. It was freezing cold, so that could be the reason. At current I am recharging them. All images look ok, except for the last one, see below. Is this caused due to an empty battery or should I return the camera (which I can still do)? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Were you able to get a good image from this scene? It's quite beautiful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 20 Author Share #16 Posted January 20 Not that day, but as it on walking distance from where I live, I photograph it often. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 21 Share #17 Posted January 21 How cold was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 21 Author Share #18 Posted January 21 Minus five celcius, camera was outside, not in a bag, so the camera became rather cold as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 22 Share #19 Posted January 22 6 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said: Minus five celcius, camera was outside, not in a bag, so the camera became rather cold as well. That’s below the operating temperature range. Lubricants can be affected as well as the electronics. The range is 0-40C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 26 Author Share #20 Posted January 26 I went for another walk today, took almost 100 photos, and no problem. I guess the problem was due to low battery and freezing temperatures. Will keep the camera. one from today: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418672-my-battery-went-empty-and-this-was-the-result%E2%80%A6/?do=findComment&comment=5746821'>More sharing options...
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