Searching for an Infrared guide

[blaaberkat]

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Hello,

Im receiving my M11M in a couple of days, and im really interested and fascinated by infrared photography. Do you know of any guide to infrared photography or tutorial. Maybe specific for the M11M? Thanks!

Edited October 29, 2024 by blaaberkat

[Olaf_ZG]

I suggest buying an additional m8 with an ir-filter. It’s a great combo for handheld ir photography. 

[Olaf_ZG]

Peekabo. M8, handheld.

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[blaaberkat]

On 10/29/2024 at 8:20 PM, Olaf_ZG said:

I suggest buying an additional m8 with an ir-filter. It’s a great combo for handheld ir photography. 

Oh yeah why didn't I think of that:) another reason to buy an M8, win win

[jaapv]

Capturing with an M8 is the best option although all M cameras are IR sensitive to a certain extent, and the M11 M might likely be usable as well, if only on a tripod and with longer shutter times. The main challenge will be the postprocessing. With an M8 you can get into colour IR  with colour channel swopping. Another option is to use an M8 with a vintage Summarit 50 1.5 for UV photography. I did so with good results. 
 

https://photographylife.com/how-to-process-infrared-photographs

[ph0toni]

@blaaberkat  if you have a fantastic M11M ... and you don't want to leave the house with a sturdy tripod ...

"I think" you should use an orange filter recommended by Leica,

if there is a splendid sun you can also use a red 590 nm ...

or dark red 630 nm, but not an IR Hoya 720.

Edited October 31, 2024 by ph0toni

[250swb]

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I used my Monochrom M with a 718nm/720nm filter and it did give a reasonable IR effect, but only mounted on a tripod. Given the M11M sensor is different I'm not sure how it would cope but at least you have a massive ISO latitude to try with hand holding the camera. Either way though it's not an IR sensitive sensor so don't expect miracles. 

[jaapv]

I don't think there is much improvement in IR filtering in general on the M series, the M9 filtered more than the M8, but the M240 was worse again. I have seen no results of the M10/11 but given that the problems with incidence angles have not changed and the filter must still be as thin as possible, my guess is that the behaviour will be similar to the M9.

[ph0toni]

@250swb I like your Flickr account.

@blaaberkat A contact of mine has this album with Leica Monochrom and infrared filters LINK
In one of the last photos I saw these settings: M11M - 720 nm filter - 16mm - 1/30" - f22 - 50000 iso
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My €500 Sony A7 fullspectrum works best for a strong wood effect on vegetation, with 720 and 850 nm filters at 200 iso

[250swb]

I tend to think that nobody is ever going to look at the detail in an infrared photograph and that makes for simpler solutions than trying to squeeze an IR image out of an M10M. Other than using infrared film from time to time my solution for a fun IR camera was to buy a Panasonic GF1 that had already been converted to IR, adding a lens the whole thing came to £130 from that well known auction site.12mp is plenty, and it gives the full IR effect, it doesn't need additional filters, and fits into a pocket. So if the OP already has another camera system it may just be worth checking what is available off the shelf or having an old camera converted to IR, it's worth it.

[ph0toni]

One consideration; all standard RGB cameras, or full spectrum... are monochrome with 750 nm filters, or more... because the Bayer filter becomes transparent after these wavelengths.

[intermediatic]

As long as you are willing to shoot in high ISO and wide open, you will be fine. Just buy an infrared filter off amazon and have fun. Leave the tripod at home.

[ramarren]

hmm. I haven't done any IR shooting in years. I'll have to dig out my IR filters (I know I have two of them somewhere) and try them out on the M10-M/-R. 

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