tomasis7 Posted January 16 Share #361 Posted January 16 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, BernardC said: It seems to be what most people wanted. AF now uses phase-detect in addition to contrast-detect, and speed has been improved overall. 4K 60p is now available in video, which should please those who kept asking for that (I'm a 24fps guy myself). Several 6K modes are also supported, including one that covers the full sensor (5952x3968). The next question is "how does it perform?" C6K (17:9) 5776 x 3056 29,97 B⁄s 1939 Mbps 422HQ ProRes i love it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geoff C. Bassett Posted January 16 Share #362 Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, tomasis7 said: C6K (17:9) 5776 x 3056 29,97 B⁄s 1939 Mbps 422HQ ProRes i love it It's the same horrid rolling shutter performance as the S5, S1H, S5 II & Leica SL2s. The Nikon Z8, Z6III, Sony A7III, Canon R5 2 all wipe the floor with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 16 Share #363 Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, BernardC said: The SL3 is for maximum resolution. The SL3-S is for higher speed and video. SL3-S is also less expensive and has the handheld multishot, which could improve IQ (more detail, less noise). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wushuliu Posted January 16 Share #364 Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, Geoff C. Bassett said: 4K 60p was always available in video. This STILL does not do 4K 60p at the full width of the sensor. So no, it does not address video concerns. It's S5IIx in a Leica body. Except based on the PetaPixel review the SL3-S AF is still not as good as the S5IIx. That's quite disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasis7 Posted January 16 Share #365 Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, Geoff C. Bassett said: It's the same horrid rolling shutter performance as the S5, S1H, S5 II & Leica SL2s. The Nikon Z8, Z6III, Sony A7III, Canon R5 2 all wipe the floor with this. From the very beginning of the SL601, there have been people who say there are better cameras. I use Leica not for its lower specs but for its overall handling and colors. Im sure people keep buying SL3 and SL3S. It is an much enjoyable experience compared to Canikon users who constantly look at other's cameras and compare.🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpark114 Posted January 16 Share #366 Posted January 16 (edited) Well SL2-s 2995 BH deal is gone just now. The price tag really was attractive given minute improvement. Edited January 16 by jpark114 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 16 Share #367 Posted January 16 Advertisement (gone after registration) 19 minutes ago, jpark114 said: Well SL2-s 2995 BH deal is gone just now. The price tag really was attractive given minute improvement. still there are used ones... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 16 Share #368 Posted January 16 54 minutes ago, tomasis7 said: 29,97 B⁄s 1939 Mbps 422HQ ProRes i love it Internally!! And via USB:-C to an SSD. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALScott Posted January 16 Share #369 Posted January 16 29 minutes ago, jpark114 said: Well SL2-s 2995 BH deal is gone just now. The price tag really was attractive given minute improvement. I have essentially an "open box" to get rid of. PM me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 16 Share #370 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, robb said: so I’ll stick with mine and keep creating. Good point. Will do the same. However, ProRes internally and the tilting screen are tempting. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBJ2 Posted January 16 Share #371 Posted January 16 Reading the SL3-s, 48- and 96-MP multi-shot modes, reminds me the 60MP SL3 still doesn't have multi-shot even after the most recent firmware update. Is there some known reason why no multi-shot in the SL3, or are most just waiting for it to be added at some unknown point in the future? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 16 Share #372 Posted January 16 34 minutes ago, jpark114 said: Well SL2-s 2995 BH deal is gone just now. The price tag really was attractive given minute improvement. Still available here: https://camerawest.com/products/leica-sl2-s-camera-only-accessories Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 16 Share #373 Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, LBJ2 said: Reading the SL3-s, 48- and 96-MP multi-shot modes, reminds me the 60MP SL3 still doesn't have multi-shot even after the most recent firmware update. Is there some known reason why no multi-shot in the SL3, or are most just waiting for it to be added at some unknown point in the future? yes, 1st update is just some bug fixes, not even all of them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelu2010 Posted January 16 Share #374 Posted January 16 I tested the camera today. the AF and MF is much better than before. I tested it with people and with moving cars and people. it’s sticky. This weekend I will make some Portraits to see if the AF sticks to the eye. I found it to be a relaxing camera. and it’s smaller than the sl and Sl2s. I like the handling and I was able to instantly go and shoot. The profoto trigger works great and tomorrow I will test the Godox. And the MF is much easier to see. With any lens > cheap or expensive. So I am very pleased with the development. Connection to the app is also much more improved. 15 s after setting up the WiFi. cheers 🥂 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Orient Lux Posted January 16 Share #375 Posted January 16 vor 14 Minuten schrieb Pelu2010: the AF and MF is much better than before. Compared to the SL2-s or the SL3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelu2010 Posted January 16 Share #376 Posted January 16 Just now, Ex Orient Lux said: Compared to the SL2-s or the SL3? Compare to both. I own the Sl2-s and I tested the Sl3 last year. this new camera is much better in its AF performance > much better and much faster > locks on to subjects instead of jumping around 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 16 Share #377 Posted January 16 The video updates are attractive, but I can get some of them from the BM CC6K, so though I'm tempted, I am content to sit back and read reviews (NB reviews by people who have used the camera, not reviews by those who have just read the specs). I will be interested to hear more about Eye/Face/Body tracking stickiness compared to the SL2-S: when there are 2-3 people moving in the scene without overlapping/crossing when two people cross one behind the other when people are briefly masked by a object, passing in front, or if they walk behind something 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted January 16 Share #378 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Geoff C. Bassett said: It's the same horrid rolling shutter performance as the S5, S1H, S5 II & Leica SL2s. The Nikon Z8, Z6III, Sony A7III, Canon R5 2 all wipe the floor with this. Someone else here is arguing that it's the exact same sensor as the A7iii. Did you means the A7Siii (12MP video-only body)? If rolling shutter is your primary criteria for image quality, you should get the camera with the least amount of rolling shutter. It's an easy choice. I personally haven't seen much objectionable rolling shutter since the first generation of 4K-capable hybrid cameras (before the original SL). I can create the effect if I try, by doing a whip-pan or filming utility poles out a train window, but it hardly ever comes-up IRL. Everyone's requirements are different, and there's a huge variety of video-capable cameras on the market these days. Each of the cameras that you listed are capable of excellent results in the right hands, as are any Leica, Sigma, BlackMagic or Panasonic cameras. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebas_ Posted January 16 Share #379 Posted January 16 (edited) I would love to have seen the manual focus confirmation, which Nikon has added to its Zf camera. I think it is brilliant, much better than just the focus peaking. Since Leica has all the M mount glass and the 6bit coded M to L adapter, I cannot grasp my head around, why they do not implement something like that. Nikon's solution works with a coded TT-artisan adapter + M-lenses, so the camera only gets the focal length (set on a wheel on the adapter) nothing else. So the camera has the same information as with the Leica M to L adapter on an SL series camera. I really thought that some advanced focussing add would come to the SL3 or SL3-S (and of course the M line + visoflex) Edited January 16 by sebas_ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb Posted January 16 Share #380 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, hansvons said: Good point. Will do the same. However, ProRes internally and the tilting screen are tempting. I don’t use the tilting screen too much in my other cameras. I do think it is a plus every once in a while for low angle. the 6k open gate is a plus. Internal pro res is 422 not raw so that’s a half plus. sl2-s already has pro res raw at 4k to hdmi and ninja so the same at 6k on sl3-s is a half plus the list of new features said raw 6k to hdmi. I’m guessing it’s pro res raw but it didn’t specify that. So I’ll wait and see. some pluses but nothing I really need at the moment. Maybe next gen. Robb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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