M11-D an Operational Question

[Smudgerer]

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Ok, being somewhat digitally inept it's taken me a while to sort out most of the operational ins and outs on the M11-D, some questions remain but can mostly be ignored......But this one will not go away and I cannot find the "how to" on it, and it's this is,  how does one clean off the Internal Storage on this camera?

I don't use Fotos except for the initial set-up which I think I have nailed and can now basically ignore, ( as I did with the M10-D, which was way simpler and easier to set-up ), I have the camera set so all files/images go to the SD card and any overflow then goes to the Internal Storage, I am treating the Internal Storage as an "emergency reserve", I download files by pulling the SD card and loading directly to my desktop Mac, never using Fotos for those tasks. I do not have a smart/iPhone for any Fotos tasking, I use my iPad Mini for the set-up but that's all, never to download to.

Somehow or other I have some files on my Internal Storage and I'd like to clean them off, ( I don't think you can format the Internal Storage, right ?? ), so how do I do this?

Thanks for any clues........

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[Mahesh]

Page 52 of Leica instructions document mentions "Formatting requires a PC connection" and "Contact your retailer or Leica Customer Care for assistance if you encounter problems when
formatting/overwriting your storage locations"

 

[Smudgerer]

9 minutes ago, Mahesh said:

Page 52 of Leica instructions document mentions "Formatting requires a PC connection" and "Contact your retailer or Leica Customer Care for assistance if you encounter problems when
formatting/overwriting your storage locations"

 

Yes, I read that..........But have you tried to contact Leica Customer Care with such an issue? My email to them of Sept' 23rd on an earlier issue has yet to receive a response, and my Leica Dealer doesn't know the answer to this question either................Hence me posting this question here hoping some M11-D owners might have the answer.

[elmars]

Connect the camera by USB-C with the iPad and delete the photos in the Leica App.

Or set the camera to ptp an connect to a ptp programm that allows deleting. Lightroom is one of them but I am not shure if deleting is part of the import options. Another program tha might allow deleting is MacDroid. But I don´t know it myself.

Edited October 2, 2024 by elmars

[maxpower]

I don't think right now it's possible to format, but one method to delete photos from Internal Storage other than the FOTOS app is the following procedure:

1. Connect M11-D with USB-C cable to your Mac (it needs to be in PTP but PTP mode is the default setting, you can check with the function button, 3 clicks to see in the viewfinder what the current mode is)

2. Turn on the M11-D

3. If prompted, allow camera to connect. (see screenshot below)

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4. Open "Image Capture" on your Mac, this application is from Apple and installed by default on every Mac for many years. Depending on language it might have a different name. When opened you should see all photos (note that internal storage and SD storage are shown as one, so you cannot differentiate between internal and SD.) Select photos you want to delete and click the trash can, then confirm deletion.

 

5. Then you can remove the cable and turn off the M11-D again. 

 

Edited October 2, 2024 by maxpower

[mboerma]

52 minutes ago, elmars said:

Connect the camera by USB-C with the iPad and delete the photos in the Leica App.

Or set the camera to ptp an connect to a ptp programm that allows deleting. Lightroom is one of them but I am not shure if deleting is part of the import options. Another program tha might allow deleting is MacDroid. But I don´t know it myself.

To add to this. You can use the standard available macOS program call "Image Capture" to import and/or delete files with the camera in PTP mode. Plus you can set some options when connecting and importing. 

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[fenykepesz]

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- connect your PTP-enabled m11d with a USB-C cable to a computer (win,mac,lnx)

- pay attention the camera LED lights up green for a moment 

- mount the camera partition(s) using the PTP protocol

- then delete/remove/move/rsync DNG/JPG files with any software that has access to the mounted partition(s) such as a simplicissimus filemanager, from a given partition.

- interestingly one can only move out data from these partitions but never add data to those, be that the internal or the SD card drive.

- umount partition(s), detach USB-C cable

 

PS: i never understood this drive formating business.  i format a partitions once something fails - once every couple of years perhaps ?  more frequently is truly not necessary, one just messes with the sector writing scheme.  for formating i use : venerable fdisk and mkfs with "W95 FAT32", takes me a second.

Edited October 2, 2024 by fenykepesz

[Smudgerer]

Thank you Maxpower and mboerma, eventually I got this to work, initially I was connecting with my 2009 MacPro desktop computer running MacOSX 10.13.6 and on that Image Capture v7 doesn't have a deletion of files option for some reason, but all worked just fine on the iMac I use for Photoshop that has a more recent OSX............So another M11-D  mystery solved, thanks again!

[hdmesa]

3 hours ago, Smudgerer said:

...my 2009 MacPro desktop computer...

😱

[Derbyshire Man]

Just got rid of my 2008 cheesgrater macpro when I could no longer run the latest music software due to lack of MacOS updates (including hacked ones for the last 4 years or so!)

Replaced with a Mac studio 

[Smudgerer]

Yeah, well........My old steam powered cheesegrater 2009 Mac Pro still does 90% of what i need it to do and  there's no reason to bin it yet, no reason either to buy upwards to a new Mac whatever, God knows I have enough of the older Macs laying around here and mostly they all still function ok for the tasks assigned. Sure I'd love to justify / afford a new MacBox but I'm kicking that can down the road for as long as possible............Anyway, as I said I disovered that the 2018 iMac I use as my Photo' work LrC station runs the Image Capture version needed for now so another expensive outlay dodged.

[hdmesa]

6 hours ago, Smudgerer said:

Yeah, well........My old steam powered cheesegrater 2009 Mac Pro still does 90% of what i need it to do and  there's no reason to bin it yet, no reason either to buy upwards to a new Mac whatever, God knows I have enough of the older Macs laying around here and mostly they all still function ok for the tasks assigned. Sure I'd love to justify / afford a new MacBox but I'm kicking that can down the road for as long as possible............Anyway, as I said I disovered that the 2018 iMac I use as my Photo' work LrC station runs the Image Capture version needed for now so another expensive outlay dodged.

When you do finally upgrade to one of the M chip machines, you'll be blown away. The M1 Max laptop I bought in 2021 was the first new Mac that felt like a quantum leap over everything that came before it.

[Smudgerer]

30 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

When you do finally upgrade to one of the M chip machines, you'll be blown away. The M1 Max laptop I bought in 2021 was the first new Mac that felt like a quantum leap over everything that came before it.

Oh no doubt. I'm sure there would be a big difference, but the M11-D has eaten what I laughingly call my photography budget for now, perhaps next year, ( and I've been saying that for a few years too....maybe ten ! ). Right now though with the M11-D I am just shooting at the 18mgpx resolution setting and in fact liking what I see of those files and the couple of A2 test prints made so I've little reason to go higher and my older Macs aren't struggling at all with the post-processing yet.

[hdmesa]

1 hour ago, Smudgerer said:

Oh no doubt. I'm sure there would be a big difference, but the M11-D has eaten what I laughingly call my photography budget for now, perhaps next year, ( and I've been saying that for a few years too....maybe ten ! ). Right now though with the M11-D I am just shooting at the 18mgpx resolution setting and in fact liking what I see of those files and the couple of A2 test prints made so I've little reason to go higher and my older Macs aren't struggling at all with the post-processing yet.

I get it. My M11-D purchase has me eating ramen noodles breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

[Datsch]

21 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

I get it. My M11-D purchase has me eating ramen noodles breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Ramen for one day = $2, normal good quality food for a day = $11. saving per day = $9, time to recoup cost of M11-D = 1000 days.

I would recommend foraging for some essential nutrients otherwise you will get scurvy. Round here it would be wild rose hips for tea and blackberries. I wonder which high desert plants you could use? 😃 Of course not ruling out roadkill for a bit of essential protein ... would make quite a nice photo series of course ...

Edited October 3, 2024 by Datsch

[Smudgerer]

25 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

I get it. My M11-D purchase has me eating ramen noodles breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

You're eating three meals a day!......Boy that's living high.

Why did I ever leave America?

[algrove]

Another option is to do what I did. Send the M11D back and instead get an M11P which allows for in camera formatting of both memory like Leica said you are supposed to do for formatting-do it in camera.

[setuporg]

Since realistically there’s no other way to import from the internal memory but connecting to a computer, deleting on the computer after import is reasonable.  I often forget to format internal memory on the M11P after import and have to endure slow PTP scan of duplicates in Lightroom to get the new ones.  Now there’ll be a discipline of deleting after import, checking that it was successful.

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[fenykepesz]

i am a command line person, so i show you below my CLI solution - though i am aware it's not everybody's case ::

  rsync -axv --remove-source-files /tmp/MTP/ /tmp/DNG/

with MTP being the jmtpfs-mounted PTP camera drive, and DNG the place i copy the files and directories to.  this one-liner copies-checks-removes files from my m11d.  i have a script for that which does everything automatically for me including importing the image files into my fotomanager program.

only annoyance i experience is when the camera goes into sleep-mode - which is shouldn't do as long as there is PTP activity going on.  i will report this bug to Leica at some point.

[hdmesa]

Using a cable at all is annoying since the camera cannot be set down normally due to the cable port location.