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2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I agree with your first comment. The second would always be a make-do option for me, not a proper solution. 

Same here. Not ideal to use the Visoflex, but better than nothing especially when using M mount lenses, which may become hard to focus using only the rear screen.

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It’s possible technically as it has been done already. The Sony A7Cr is a premium evf away from being 👌 

The lenses to compliment such a camera are not there yet though on L mount. The Sigma contemporary range are great but not enough to carry a system and not fully weather sealed. There would need to be Leica options too.

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I would love to see Leica revisit the CL. That form factor, for me, is absolutely perfect for travel and about 90% of what I shoot, and when I need more, I have the SL2-S. Moving from APS-C to FF would obviously mean some design changes, but I think it would hit a sweet spot for many shooters.

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9 hours ago, stephenmick said:

Moving from APS-C to FF would obviously mean some design changes, but I think it would hit a sweet spot for many shooters.

If they could create a FF small body of similar size to the CL or Q, then you still need smaller lenses to balance that. 

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23 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

If they could create a FF small body of similar size to the CL or Q, then you still need smaller lenses to balance that. 

I am happy with Sigma iContemporary lenses on a CL-sized body.

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On 9/30/2024 at 4:18 PM, Le Chef said:

You also have to remember that the Q has built in to the lens a leaf shutter, and also OIS. If you want to produce an ILC camera of a similar size and using an L mount, you might as well toss the Q as there’s very little you would keep.

I couldn't agree more.

 

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10 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

And how much is a Leica body + 2 lenses?

Leica SL3: 6900

Leica 28mm APO: 5000€

Leica 50mm APO: 5000€

Not sure how to break it to you…. But if you think the Q3 28mm is equal to the 28mm APO then I rest my case. 

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18 minutes ago, Miltz said:

Not sure how to break it to you…. But if you think the Q3 28mm is equal to the 28mm APO then I rest my case. 

As a 50 and 90mm SL APO user, I’d say that, for me, not everything is about sheer quality. No point in having that when I leave the lenses at home because they are a pain to carry.
Weight and size for me are more important, so I’m happy to swap the two SL lenses for the two Qs, but I’ll keep my S5II for M lenses. 

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Just now, Simone_DF said:

As a 50 and 90mm SL APO user, I’d say that, for me, not everything is about sheer quality. No point in having that when I leave the lenses at home because they are a pain to carry.
Weight and size for me are more important, so I’m happy to swap the two SL lenses for the two Qs, but I’ll keep my S5II for M lenses. 

Absolutely… it’s a beautiful thing to have options. But to say that the Q3 28mm is equal to a 28mm APO, that’s ridiculous. I own both cameras. The 43mm is definitely APO quality and so far is worth that badge in my testing.

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21 minutes ago, Miltz said:

Absolutely… it’s a beautiful thing to have options. But to say that the Q3 28mm is equal to a 28mm APO, that’s ridiculous. I own both cameras. The 43mm is definitely APO quality and so far is worth that badge in my testing.

This is why I'm trying to find a small full frame body so I can carry my 21mm APO SL with the Q43.  Nothing exists, as far as I can tell, with an EVF and mechanical shutter.

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How about a Q camera with a Tri-Elmar type lens? A single lens with one OIS mechanism (or if needed to keep size down, change to IBIS) and a single leaf shutter, maximum aperture F4.  28-35-50 mm or other focal lengths (28 43 60?) maybe lose the macro/close focus function if it shortens the resulting lens. The M tri-elmar lens is big and heavy, so I guess this would change the whole concept of the Q line:  Keep it as small and light as possible and just keep the digital zooming options to get the larger focal lengths at reasonable MP number.   I really like the single lens, AF concept, especially for travel and easier  carry.   If actually realized, the Q4 would have greater appeal if more than just another focal length camera with no other significant design change.  

We used to collect lenses for a camera, now we collect cameras for the lenses.  

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Right now in Europe Q3 43 is not a blowout success. Right after launch it is widely available in most stores. 
It is very unusual for a Q.  Q3 were out of stock immediately. Still is difficult to find in several shops.

Maybe 43mm is not ideal. To long for 35mm lovers. Which rather use Q3 28mm in crop mode, rather than loosing 8 precious millimetres. 
Same for 50mm lovers which did not get the 50mm crop in Q3 43. It jumps straight to 60mm. Why ?

So 35 and 50mm fans are better catered by Q3 28 in their respective crops. Weird

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