Long awaited: Leica Q3 43 with APO-Summicron 43mm f/2 ASPH.

[Matt Stevens]

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31 minutes ago, ellisson said:

I debated back and forth whether to get the 28mm or 43mm version of the Q3.   My own shooting enjoyment - not work - was the factor that pushed me to the 28mm Q3.  I shoot 28 sometimes, 35mm the most, and sometimes 50mm when traveling, on the street, inside buildings, or for landscapes.  Probably 25%, 50% and 25% breakdown for these focal lengths.  So for 75% of my shooting, 39 or more megapixels is plenty.  And 19 MP at 50 will do just fine.  

I went through the same thought process this morning; also decided to get a used Q3 (like new) because I will use this camera primarily as a travel camera and shoot travel similar to you.

[Miltz]

8 hours ago, JimD said:

I ordered mine today at 8 am CST from B and H.  At 2:30 pm they said it shipped and will be delivered this Saturday.  I live in the Chicago area.

Interesting mine shipped today too. Thursday. But won’t be here till Monday. How did you get Saturday delivery? Did they use FedEx for you too?

[LocalHero1953]

I took a long hard look at my Lightroom catalogue of Q2 images last night, to get an overview of what I actually use it for. I concluded I would have missed a lot of photos I really like if I had to shoot at 43mm or longer. As a travel camera, I use the 28 in places where I can't step back (buildings, interiors), as well as for some landscapes. It's a pity I can't search LR by crop factor, but a random sample suggests I don't use the Q28 much for FL equivalents longer than about 50. Cropping a landscape image to portrait or vice versa only brings 28 to 42mm.

I have also occasionally used the Q2 for stage/drama photography: a longer FL would undoubtedly be handy, but a lot of shots with the Q2 have been fully wide. For this usage, though, my SL2-S and 24-90SL beats both without swapping cameras.

Conclusion: I will not be buying a Q3 43, lovely though it is. And although that lens is especially attractive, for IQ the 28mm is 'good enough'. But perhaps now is the time to buy a used Q3 28 as they are all offloaded? There are three for sale in the forum classifieds already.

[JNK100]

14 hours ago, Leica Filmmatic said:

Just picked it up today from the Leica store, I will say this it looks better in person.  Also the lens is the same size as the regular Q3 the lens hood however is a little larger. 

I believe the 43 lens is slightly larger (5mm only though)

[FlashGordonPhotography]

8 hours ago, RobW0 said:

If you are not moving your feet the 28 is going to have a different view than the 43. 

And even if you are....

Gordon

[Lucena]

I own a Q and a Q2. The Q3 didn't convince me, but I am temped by the Q3-43. Will give it a serious thought as I used the 35 or 50mm crop mostly.

[nemendes]

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3 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I took a long hard look at my Lightroom catalogue of Q2 images last night, to get an overview of what I actually use it for. I concluded I would have missed a lot of photos I really like if I had to shoot at 43mm or longer. As a travel camera, I use the 28 in places where I can't step back (buildings, interiors), as well as for some landscapes. It's a pity I can't search LR by crop factor, but a random sample suggests I don't use the Q28 much for FL equivalents longer than about 50. Cropping a landscape image to portrait or vice versa only brings 28 to 42mm.

I have also occasionally used the Q2 for stage/drama photography: a longer FL would undoubtedly be handy, but a lot of shots with the Q2 have been fully wide. For this usage, though, my SL2-S and 24-90SL beats both without swapping cameras.

Conclusion: I will not be buying a Q3 43, lovely though it is. And although that lens is especially attractive, for IQ the 28mm is 'good enough'. But perhaps now is the time to buy a used Q3 28 as they are all offloaded? There are three for sale in the forum classifieds already.

Totally agree. For everyday camera, q3 with 28mm is better option for street, family, landscape, travel and etc. q3 43 is more specific camera for street and portrait shots. Of course photo of any genre could be shot by any focal length but you should have plan for that purpose. 

In my town, some of leica q3 are on sale already. I think some people will buy them again after trying q3 43 by the way  I am also thinking give a try for leica q3 if i find one with good price. 

[LocalHero1953]

1 minute ago, nemendes said:

For everyday camera, q3 with 28mm is better option for street, family, landscape, travel and etc.

While I am sticking with the 28 for my usage, I don't agree with this as a general rule. I can't think of a genre (perhaps sports?, headshots?) which demands a particular FL range: certainly not landscape, street, or family. It is too easy to elevate a personal preference into a general rule😏.

[nemendes]

52 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

While I am sticking with the 28 for my usage, I don't agree with this as a general rule. I can't think of a genre (perhaps sports?, headshots?) which demands a particular FL range: certainly not landscape, street, or family. It is too easy to elevate a personal preference into a general rule😏.

As you said, its too easy to elevate a personal preference into a general rule, and thats you are doing as well  i am speaking “generally” that 28mm helps a lot to take photos of almost every genres but 43mm demands an a little experience for that. 
As i mentioned in my post that you can shoot almost any genres with any FL,but generally speaking not everyone is capable of doing that quickly. Thats why there are point-shoot cameras at first place 😉 and for that purpose 28mm is better option IMO. Its not personal, its very common opinion my friend 😉

Edited September 27, 2024 by nemendes

[LocalHero1953]

8 minutes ago, nemendes said:

As you said, its too easy to elevate a personal preference into a general rule, and thats you are doing as well  i am speaking “generally” that 28mm helps a lot to take photos of almost every genres but 43mm demands an a little experience for that. 
As i mentioned in my post that you can shoot almost any genres with any FL,but generally speaking not everyone is capable of doing that quickly. Thats why there are point-shoot cameras at first place 😉 and for that purpose 28mm is better option IMO. Its not personal, its very common opinion my friend 😉

Oh, well, it looks like Leica has made a mistake with this new camera then.

[nemendes]

1 minute ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Oh, well, it looks like Leica has made a mistake with this new camera then.

Of course not. Who really needs that focal length for his/her purpose, its perfect choice. lens is optically better than 28mm, perfect for specific portrait work for example as for me (but i already have sl2-s, so not interested in right now) and etc. I am just saying that for general, everyday photography 28mm is better option. But i think many people who wants to spend more than 6k, they already kind of know what they gonna do so maybe 43mm will be better for them. 

I hope i could deliver my thoughts right. Dont be offended that fast my friend, we are sharing ideas here👍 

[jjroroek]

13 hours ago, My1stLeicaCam said:

I do not have a photo when I did the test accidentally. 
I was at the 43 launch last night in Singapore.

Wanted to do a street shot comparison, just to see the difference. 

Set a Q3 28 & a Q3 43 to f2, speed 1/125s. 
Tap focus on the same object. 
The 43 is having a 5000 iso vs 4000 on the 28. I was expecting same iso value. 

Anyone knows why and maybe can do this test?

larger field of measuring. so perhaps somithing light in de 28 corner

 

[jjroroek]

when i still had the Leica  m 10 r I used in the end only 2 lenses. 28 lux and the 50 lux. 95 % of the time i had the 28 on it  en thats was one of the main reasons i chose ( because of my bad eyes) for the q3 28. I  crop if neccesary . with the q3 43 i would realy miss the 28 or 35. the only thing i miss sometimes on the q3 28 is de DOF of the summilus 50 mm wich i think even the q3 43 will not solve . If  you crop to 50 mm from 43 mm f2 its like having a DOF l 50 mm f2,4.  Cropping from de q3 28 f1,7 DOF its like a 50 mm F 3.0 .  

[fotografr]

12 hours ago, Jeff S said:

Auto ISO? Metering pattern setting? Changing light?  

Jeff

Must you always be so logical? 😉

[fotografr]

I've just been browsing the Fred Miranda Forum Buy &Sell section. Based on the number of Q, Q2, Q2M and Q3 cameras listed for sale, it would appear a lot of people are dumping cameras to get funds for buying the Q3 43. Just a hunch.

[LocalHero1953]

14 hours ago, My1stLeicaCam said:

I do not have a photo when I did the test accidentally. 
I was at the 43 launch last night in Singapore.

Wanted to do a street shot comparison, just to see the difference. 

Set a Q3 28 & a Q3 43 to f2, speed 1/125s. 
Tap focus on the same object. 
The 43 is having a 5000 iso vs 4000 on the 28. I was expecting same iso value. 

Anyone knows why and maybe can do this test?

The Q cameras meter (and autofocus) only within the frame you’ve selected. They’d have to be framing exactly the same scene to get the same meter reading.

[duoenboge]

vor 8 Minuten schrieb LocalHero1953:

The Q cameras meter (and autofocus) only within the frame you’ve selected. They’d have to be framing exactly the same scene to get the same meter reading.

or you use the spot option.

But what is the reason to compare it? If the foto is exposed correctly, everything is fine.

[LocalHero1953]

14 minutes ago, duoenboge said:

or you use the spot option.

But what is the reason to compare it? If the foto is exposed correctly, everything is fine.

@My1stLeicaCam simply asked why the exposures were different. I explained (since it is their first Leica!) Anyone curious would want to know why.

Metering modes is another matter.

Edited September 27, 2024 by LocalHero1953

[Jeff S]

1 hour ago, fotografr said:

Must you always be so logical? 😉

Based on what information did you come to that conclusion?  🧐

Jeff

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[fotografr]

54 minutes ago, Jeff S said:

Based on what information did you come to that conclusion?  🧐

Jeff

It was a logical conclusion based on your logical response.