Q3 43 - what will you be using for your wide option (if anything)?

[Dr. G]

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I've been thinking about this a lot, first trying to come up with a solution with what I already have. I don't shoot wide that much, but it's nice to have the option, especially when traveling. The Q3 43 will be my main travel/EDC camera. Here's what I'm thinking for my wide option:

1. SL3/21mm Super APO Summicron-SL - could use APS-C mode to get me a 32.5mm equivalent when needed as well
2. Some other small body (S9, fp)/21mm Super APO Summicron-SL
3. Get the 28mm wide angle converter for my X100IV
4. Sell the X100VI and find a Ricoh GR iii

Using the 21 APO is probably the best solution, but the S9 has some limitations (no EVF, only electronic shutter), so the most "complete" solution would be the SL3/21 - but it's not the lightest/most compact one.

FWIW, I own the 21/35/50/75 APO Summicron SL lenses. Even on my SL2-S, you could crop heavily with the APO lenses and end up with images that appear to be taken at much higher resolutions. If the APO lens on the Q43 performs the same or better, as the MTF graphs seem to indicate, even the longer crop modes will produce amazing results.

What are other people thinking in terms of a second camera to carry (if any) for a wide option?

 

Edited September 25, 2024 by Dr. G

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[hoolyproductions]

I'm quite intested in this camera for occassions I want to travel as light as possible with (something close to) my favourite focal length of 50mm. I currently use am M11 for that but think I might prefer the autofocus, WYSIWYG EVF and OIS. As such, when using it I would not have a wide option (or would just use my phone).

If I would want a wide option but still lightweight I would revert to my current choice of SL2-S plus 24mm 3.5 sigma and 50mm summicron.

[StyxTravel]

Will the 28mm Fuji wide angle converter fit the Q3? Both cameras use the 49mm thread don't they, but I bet there's more to it than that; there always is in photography.

[LocalHero1953]

Why isn't a Q3 (28) on your list?

[Dr. G]

4 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Why isn't a Q3 (28) on your list?

Because I really don't shoot wide that often.  The Q3 is the logical choice, but spending another $6k on a camera I won't use that much doesn't make sense; even though we're in Leica world and rational thinking isn't usually the preferred method of choosing gear.  

[Dr. G]

11 minutes ago, StyxTravel said:

Will the 28mm Fuji wide angle converter fit the Q3? Both cameras use the 49mm thread don't they, but I bet there's more to it than that; there always is in photography.

I've heard that there's a way to make it fit, but optically it's not great.  

[Simone_DF]

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For me a Q28 would be the most logical choice, because on the SL2-S / S5II I use the Sigma 24mm as my wide, and it’s rare for me to go wider than that, though I also have a Voigtlander 21mm

[tangosix]

I think the 21 APO is your huckleberry.  

I have enjoyed the Q3 28 more than I imagined for travel.  

The two scenarios for wide for me have been events and real estate, and for that it sure is nice to have a dedicated body so that I have another lens tighter and ready, usually the SL75APO.  

Interestingly enough, a few friends asked me to shoot their Air BnB properties and now I have paying real estate customers lined up for more shoots.  I wish that I had the SL21APO for that, but the dedicated Q3 28 is head and shoulders above the crowd, worth keeping just for that use and I keep my detailed lens on the SL2S.  Same for events.  

I'd probably run a dedicated SL3 with the 21APO for my dedicated wide.  In the meantime, I will continue to make the Q3 28 sing for my wide.  I do not like not having the back button focus button on the Q for situations, but I am making it work.  

[LanceR]

I can thumbs up on the GRIII for that use case, if 28mm is sufficient.  My backup camera has been a GRIIIx for my M11 and now for my SL3.  It is a great system, especially if it is not your primary.  So easy to pocket and carry.

[kkochheiser]

My Q3 28 or SL with 16-35.

[mrlouie]

3 hours ago, Dr. G said:

Because I really don't shoot wide that often.  The Q3 is the logical choice, but spending another $6k on a camera I won't use that much doesn't make sense; even though we're in Leica world and rational thinking isn't usually the preferred method of choosing gear.  

What if you sold everything else to get a Q3 ?

I plan on getting a Q3 43. I have a Q3 & X100Vi. I should be smart and sell both to cover the Q3 43. I actually may keep the x100vi so then I can add the wide adapter if needed, but more for having a smaller camera when I don’t want to take out Q43. 

But ! lol, I really don’t like switching between different cameras, especially if took both out. Having a Q28 & Q43 setup exactly the same would be sooo nice.

If sell the X100vi for 2k then the Q43 would be like on sale. 😂 Leica math 
 

Edited September 25, 2024 by mrlouie

[stephenmick]

2 minutes ago, mrlouie said:

. 😂 Leica math 
 

When you're single, Leica math is a bit complicated. 

When you're married, it can get much simpler: divide everything you own in half, because that's what the wife gets when she leaves over how much you spend on cameras.

[Dr. G]

13 minutes ago, mrlouie said:

What if you sold everything else to get a Q3 ?

I plan on getting a Q3 43. I have a Q3 & X100Vi. I should be smart and sell both to cover the Q3 43. I actually may keep the x100vi so then I can add the wide adapter if needed, but more for having a smaller camera when I don’t want to take out Q43. 

But ! lol, I really don’t like switching between different cameras, especially if took both out. Having a Q28 & Q43 setup exactly the same would be sooo nice.

If sell the X100vi for 2k then the Q43 would be like on sale. 😂 Leica math 
 

I'm leaning towards selling the X100VI if I decide to go with the 21 APO as my wide option.  The film simulations and jpegs are great for posting on social media, but when I dive into the files to do real editing I'm not nearly as impressed as when I edit my Leica files.  Plus I've found that RAW images from the Fuji are much sharper in Capture One, and I've always edited my Leica files in Lightroom.  Bouncing back and forth between editing software isn't really ideal.  Considering the market for the X100VI, I won't lose anything in selling it.  I may actually end up with two Q3 43s.  I was going to buy them both just to get the points on my credit card.  I could probably sell one for exactly what I paid for it.  I'm not one to flip cameras for a profit, but who knows, maybe the Q3 43 will be selling at a premium in a few weeks if demand is higher than what they made for the first run.

I can't sell my SL3.  I use it for some commercial work, but I have the 21/35/50/75 APO Summicron-SL lenses and the 50 Lux-SL.  I'm thinking I'll sell the APO 50 SL because I've used 35/75 the most for the projects I've done.

Edited September 25, 2024 by Dr. G

[Olaf_ZG]

M10m with 28mm summaron 

[LanceR]

I shot Fuji for years and I migrated to Capture One as a result.  My daughter's hair exacerbated the dreaded "worm" problem with Adobe processing of Fuji RAW files.

One somewhat subtle thing about Capture One, I understand that they actually implement the same in camera logic for the simulations, when you pick the "Curve" in the ICC profile.  I found that to be fantastic!  I could always get remarkable results by using those simulations combined with Capture One Fuji RAW editing.

[Mr Perceptive]

4 hours ago, StyxTravel said:

Will the 28mm Fuji wide angle converter fit the Q3? Both cameras use the 49mm thread don't they, but I bet there's more to it than that; there always is in photography.

 

4 hours ago, Dr. G said:

I've heard that there's a way to make it fit, but optically it's not great.  

Whilst the Fuji is a 49mm thread the Converters use an external (male) 49mm as opposed to an internal (female) one typically used for filters. This means to fit a Leica you would a male to female 49mm converter ring, almost certainly putting the Converter in an optivcally un-ideal place.

Also the WCL needs software optical correction and combined with the Leica softwrae optical correction no doubt will not be a match made in heaven. Whilst it may be possible to fit it, you will likely have significant distortion and possible colour fringing towards the edges and the corners.

 

As an aside I made a full fish-eye for the X100 system using a WCL combined with a Fish Eye Adapter, whilst fine for novelty value it definitely has issues - fun to use though. X100F + WCL + Fisheye Adapter

 

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Edited September 25, 2024 by Mr Perceptive
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[Trankster]

If traveling, I would likely bring my m43 Olympus Pen-F with a couple of wide lenses (18mm and 24-84mm FF equivalent).  Otherwise, I would just use my smartphone.

[Likaleica]

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[frankchn]

Throwing out another option: X2D + 25/2.5 V. It is slightly lighter than the SL3 + APO 21/2. The 20-35/3.5-4.5 is also a possibility but that is heavier.

[costa43]

SL3 and APO 21 is about as good as it gets but If 28 is wide enough for you and you don’t shoot wide often then the Ricoh is a winner imo. Slips in a trouser pocket and you don’t know it’s there till you need it so more likely to be taken out with a main camera. Being so compact and low key it gives you something no other camera you own can offer, besides the one on your phone.