Leica M11-D Review by Jonathan Slack

[Derbyshire Man]

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7 minutes ago, egrossman said:

Because no battery charger was included in the box, I first connected my M11-D to my Mac Studio front USB-C port and it was charging extremely slowly. When I later plug the cable into a large wattage charging brick, it charged very quickly so I can confirm what @Smudgerer said above.

Erik

Yep, not enough juice out of a mac studio, sadly!

[hdmesa]

5 hours ago, elmars said:

There is no off sensor metering. Sorry!

M11 is constantly in a state of metering off the sensor be it when using the rangefinder or live view. Previous digital Ms did not meter off the sensor unless using live view.

[IkarusJohn]

36 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

M11 is constantly in a state of metering off the sensor be it when using the rangefinder or live view. Previous digital Ms did not meter off the sensor unless using live view.

Language conflict - “off sensor”, meaning metering read otherwise than from the sensor (ie from the shutter blades).  A more precise statement would be metering is read from the live sensor with all M11 series cameras.

[hdmesa]

38 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said:

Language conflict - “off sensor”, meaning metering read otherwise than from the sensor (ie from the shutter blades).  A more precise statement would be metering is read from the live sensor with all M11 series cameras.

There are many things in English that can have the opposite meaning if one considers them for too long. "Off sensor metering" and "off sensor meter" are interchangeable. "Shutter blade metering" and "shutter blade meter" are their counterparts.

[M11 for me]

vor 13 Stunden schrieb jaapv:

No charger because of regulations.

Is this maybe a misunderstanding? Its not about the standardized charger (wall charger). This is an accepted regulation. Its only about the "cup" to put the battery in with its USB-c socket. Even the cable can be left out.

Then its upsetting that when you just want to buy that "cup" (and nothing else) that you get a whole set of electronics that I do not need.

[jaapv]

The same with other brands now as well. My S5ii came without . Fortunately a good third-party double charger costs 15$

[IkarusJohn]

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10 hours ago, hdmesa said:

There are many things in English that can have the opposite meaning if one considers them for too long. "Off sensor metering" and "off sensor meter" are interchangeable. "Shutter blade metering" and "shutter blade meter" are their counterparts.

And yet @elmars has tested the camera and knows perfectly well that only live metering is available.

[hdmesa]

29 minutes ago, IkarusJohn said:

And yet @elmars has tested the camera and knows perfectly well that only live metering is available.

Which is why I agree with you that more specificity of language is warranted beyond the commonly used terms.

[Syrjames]

22 hours ago, elmars said:

There is no off sensor metering. Sorry!

Thats what I assumed. Since its based on M11. 
thank you for clarifying. Was an important characteristic for me. 

[marchyman]

22 hours ago, egrossman said:

I first connected my M11-D to my Mac Studio front USB-C port and it was charging extremely slowly.

That's different than this report:

 

On 9/22/2024 at 6:14 AM, Smudgerer said:

it requires a high wattage, ( 40 watts and above ), Fast USB charger to work otherwise the camera will just ignore lesser chargers.

 

Which is it?  It "requires" a 40-watt charger or "for fastest charging use a charger of at least 40 watts"?  

I don't have a D.  Is it that different from the non-D version with respect to charging?  My M11 charges fast enough using a 20 watt charger.

[egrossman]

My M11-D was trickle charging when plugged into my Mac Studio's front USB port (15W). When I plugged it into my MacBook Pro charger, it quick charged.

Erik

Edited September 23, 2024 by egrossman

[Smudgerer]

16 minutes ago, marchyman said:

That's different than this report:

 

 

Which is it?  It "requires" a 40-watt charger or "for fastest charging use a charger of at least 40 watts"?  

I don't have a D.  Is it that different from the non-D version with respect to charging?  My M11 charges fast enough using a 20 watt charger.

To be honest I am not sure, the 40W might refer to the total output when the USB charger has three or more ports, the one I bought at the weekend didn't give a wattage number, it just says Rapid Charger, and it has one USB port labelled as "3.1", ( whatever the hell that means ), that's the port I plugged into and that worked.

Edited September 23, 2024 by Smudgerer

[Derbyshire Man]

2 hours ago, marchyman said:

That's different than this report:

 

 

Which is it?  It "requires" a 40-watt charger or "for fastest charging use a charger of at least 40 watts"?  

I don't have a D.  Is it that different from the non-D version with respect to charging?  My M11 charges fast enough using a 20 watt charger.

It's in the quick start manual. It'll start charging if switched off at 4.5W if switched on 8.5W.

It's pretty hard to work out how much the mac studio will actually deliver when it's got a bunch of peripherals plugged in. Mine looks like it would charge in about a year so I use one of those mac folding sockets which will charge at 20W. Seems plenty and a whole £15.

[shirubadanieru]

Just to confirm two things from people who have used the camera:

- it’s possible to set up the white balance to anything other than auto in the app? (but not possible to set any function button in the camera to change white balance). Is this accurate?

- I don’t own a laptop, just an iPad and iPhone. Is it possible to transfer photos into the iPad via the usb-c port?

Edited September 24, 2024 by shirubadanieru

[elmars]

Yes and yes. 

[Mahesh]

1 hour ago, elmars said:

Yes and yes. 

@elmars but not custom white balance/off grey card i assume? There is discrepancy between the two pdf documents on Leica website. One (instructions ) mentions only auto and predetermined balances could be set. The other document (technical data) mentions you can do custom and grey card as well. Guess they did not proof read these documents before publishing and I'm not sure what's available.

Please could you confirm.

[elmars]

I'm travelling until Sunday and don't have the M11-D with me. From memory, I would say there is only AWB and fixed settings such as sunny, cloudy, etc. 

[scott kirkpatrick]

Connecting to my M11-D over Android Fotos I see White Balance options Auto, Daylight, Cloudy (I guess that is colder than daylight), Shadow, Tungsten, HMI (??), Flourescent Cool and Warm, and Flash as options.  Auto and Daylight (Jono's choice) would seem to be the least complicated to work with.  I would guess that Mac Fotos offers the same choices.

[Edax]

2 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said:

Connecting to my M11-D over Android Fotos I see White Balance options Auto, Daylight, Cloudy (I guess that is colder than daylight), Shadow, Tungsten, HMI (??), Flourescent Cool and Warm, and Flash as options.  Auto and Daylight (Jono's choice) would seem to be the least complicated to work with.  I would guess that Mac Fotos offers the same choices.

HMI = hydrargyrum medium-arc iodide lighting??

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[M11 for me]

vor 11 Stunden schrieb Mahesh:

@elmars but not custom white balance/off grey card i assume? There is discrepancy between the two pdf documents on Leica website. One (instructions ) mentions only auto and predetermined balances could be set. The other document (technical data) mentions you can do custom and grey card as well. Guess they did not proof read these documents before publishing and I'm not sure what's available.

Please could you confirm.

As @elmars cannot answer I'll give it a try:

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