Q3 with 43mm APO f2

[Le Chef]

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13 minutes ago, Viewfinder_vandals said:

Lowlight conditions. 
q 1/8s

q2 1/15s

q3 1/25s

Anything below These times is pure luck to get a Sharp clean Image  

 

Why would you bother to go that low unless you’re using a tripod? Just raise the ISO and denoise in post.

[LocalHero1953]

21 minutes ago, Viewfinder_vandals said:

Lowlight conditions. 
q 1/8s

q2 1/15s

q3 1/25s

Anything below These times is pure luck to get a Sharp clean Image  

 

Q2 owner here. Age 71. I have just shot a sharp image at 0.3s from a not very stable stance. This is not luck. Either your cameras or your technique are at fault. 

[Viewfinder_vandals]

vor 19 Minuten schrieb LocalHero1953:

Q2 owner here. Age 71. I have just shot a sharp image at 0.3s from a not very stable stance. This is not luck. Either your cameras or your technique are at fault. 

If its possible for you Send a wetransferlink With raws you Shoot at That low Shutter Speed so i can Proof it  

Even With the First Q it is pure luck at 1/4s and i would say i am Young and stable at shooting 

[Le Chef]

We have a number of mature posters who shoot low shutter speeds with longer 300mm + lenses without any form of stability. A bad workman will always blames his tools, as the expression goes.

[LocalHero1953]

19 minutes ago, Viewfinder_vandals said:

If its possible for you Send a wetransferlink With raws you Shoot at That low Shutter Speed so i can Proof it  

Even With the First Q it is pure luck at 1/4s and i would say i am Young and stable at shooting 

I have no interest in proving anything. This is an internet forum, not a court of law. I have told you my experience; it’s up to you whether you believe it or not. 

[kiwidad]

3 hours ago, Viewfinder_vandals said:

Lowlight conditions. 
q 1/8s

q2 1/15s

q3 1/25s

Anything below These times is pure luck to get a Sharp clean Image  

 

Just curious how you get the subject to stand that still?

I do think the usefulness of OIS at extreme shutter speeds is misunderstood.  I don't see any OIS I know of tat claimed to be sharp at 5 stops down from 15th! old soul it!chool theory suggests you shoot a 28mm and a min of 1/42nd so pull that 5 stops and you get 1/2 sec sharp? Find me any camera whose OIS lets you shot at a half a second?

On a telephoto lens where the limits are much higher image stabilization is much more effective! try shooting a 300mm lens handheld a1/30th for instance with

I found the Q2 IOS worked amazingly well compared to my M11 with a28mm on it.  Some days I wish someone would make an M lens with IOS built in!

[Nathant123]

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Anyone think there is any truth to the rumour that it’s using the Q2 sensor and not the Q3? I thought it was quite bizarre when I read a new variant of the Q3 would use the older sensor. Perhaps we don’t have have to wait too much longer to find out..

[Pelu2010]

9 hours ago, Le Chef said:

We have a number of mature posters who shoot low shutter speeds with longer 300mm + lenses without any form of stability. A bad workman will always blames his tools, as the expression goes.

You a right. 
but with the slow shutter stable ability comes one thing to my mind. 
 

it stabilizes me and everything around me can go ballistic. 
 

I like this look a lot. 
 

usually I need a tripod to achieve this , but with the camera helping me I can do it in many Szenarios. 
 

And it’s like a portal into a world we cannot see. 
 

so that’s the main reason why I like to have this feature .

 

And if you shoot people it helps a lot to get a blurred but sharp image. 
 

cheers 

[Mr.Kite]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb Nathant123:

Anyone think there is any truth to the rumour that it’s using the Q2 sensor and not the Q3? I thought it was quite bizarre when I read a new variant of the Q3 would use the older sensor. Perhaps we don’t have have to wait too much longer to find out..

Why would Leica do such thing ? Makes no sense at all.

[student]

5 minutes ago, Mr.Kite said:

Why would Leica do such thing ? Makes no sense at all.

You raise a difficult issue. Your remark has me thinking– was buying the Q3 "sensible"? The only answer I have is that I liked it, and have no regrets.

Now with M11-D out, I think in terms of what you said. And the best answer I have is that if you wanted an analogue, then M6 analogue with a bit of electronics may make more sense. And if you wanted digital then M11-P may make more sense. But it seems that those who like Leica like what they are getting into with M11-D.

Seems to me that buying Leica cameras in general is not because the buyer is approaching the matter in terms of value for features, but because s/he just wants to buy Leica. And having got that basic decision out of the way, the features and shortcomings may be considered. 

I am missing something here?

[Kwokaun]

5 hours ago, Nathant123 said:

Anyone think there is any truth to the rumour that it’s using the Q2 sensor and not the Q3? I thought it was quite bizarre when I read a new variant of the Q3 would use the older sensor. Perhaps we don’t have have to wait too much longer to find out..

If it was 47MP but a new BSI sensor then I'd still be interested. But if it's the old Q2 sensor then it would be a no for me. I photograph a fair bit in the evening so a BSI sensor would be what I'd need. No tripods for me, I want to be quick and not obvious.

It would seem odd though to not use the same sensor as the Q3.

[Mr.Kite]

vor 23 Minuten schrieb student:

You raise a difficult issue. Your remark has me thinking– was buying the Q3 "sensible"? The only answer I have is that I liked it, and have no regrets.

Now with M11-D out, I think in terms of what you said. And the best answer I have is that if you wanted an analogue, then M6 analogue with a bit of electronics may make more sense. And if you wanted digital then M11-P may make more sense. But it seems that those who like Leica like what they are getting into with M11-D.

Seems to me that buying Leica cameras in general is not because the buyer is approaching the matter in terms of value for features, but because s/he just wants to buy Leica. And having got that basic decision out of the way, the features and shortcomings may be considered. 

I am missing something here?

Sorry, but what are you talking about?

[Carrot]

If the Q-P followed the Q-116, then maybe the Q2-43 is the Q2-P?
Using up older and cheaper components to test the reaction to a 43mm lens, rather than diving straight in with a Q3-43?

[wlaidlaw]

I have quite serious essential arthritic tremor, which got a lot worse after I had a fairly serious encounter with Covid, which left me with long Covid. I find the OIS on the Q3 works very well enabling shots for example, inside a poorly lit church at low shutter speeds, without going to very high and noisy ISO levels. I might then tidy up the image with Topaz Sharpen AI, depending on how big I am going to print it. I rarely use below 1/60 on my M10-R or various film cameras without OIS or IBIS unless on a tripod, whereas I am happy to go to 1/15 on the Q3. 

I think the idea that the new Q camera would revert to the Q2 sensor is BS. 

Wilson

[student]

1 hour ago, Mr.Kite said:

Sorry, but what are you talking about?

Apologies for wandering off, and many thanks for your question. I was responding to your musing whether using a 47 MP sensor and not a 60 MP sensor made any sense. What I tried to convey is my sense, that it is perhaps tricky to look for and establish rationality, strictly in terms of camera specs, in Leica's thinking behind its decisions

I do hope that clarifies matters. Thank you

[Kwokaun]

1 hour ago, student said:

You raise a difficult issue. Your remark has me thinking– was buying the Q3 "sensible"? The only answer I have is that I liked it, and have no regrets.

Now with M11-D out, I think in terms of what you said. And the best answer I have is that if you wanted an analogue, then M6 analogue with a bit of electronics may make more sense. And if you wanted digital then M11-P may make more sense. But it seems that those who like Leica like what they are getting into with M11-D.

Seems to me that buying Leica cameras in general is not because the buyer is approaching the matter in terms of value for features, but because s/he just wants to buy Leica. And having got that basic decision out of the way, the features and shortcomings may be considered. 

I am missing something here?

I think in the case of the M11-D, it is more a way of taking a photograph that is akin to a film camera. No screen to distract you from watching and waiting for the moment. Features wise, the same generation of sensor etc as the M11-P. 

But I think if the rumoured Q3 43mm f/2 APO uses the old Q2 sensor then the equation becomes un balanced, especially if the price ends up equal to the current Q3 or higher. For me, no matter how much I like Leica cameras, I wouldn't be able to go for that.

[Dr. G]

8 hours ago, Nathant123 said:

Anyone think there is any truth to the rumour that it’s using the Q2 sensor and not the Q3? I thought it was quite bizarre when I read a new variant of the Q3 would use the older sensor. Perhaps we don’t have have to wait too much longer to find out..

That would be an… interesting choice.  The low light performance of the Q3 sensor is much better and the way it renders noise is much smoother and cleaner.  
 

Where did you read that it was going to be a Q2 sensor? 

[jaapv]

13 hours ago, Viewfinder_vandals said:

If its possible for you Send a wetransferlink With raws you Shoot at That low Shutter Speed so i can Proof it  

Even With the First Q it is pure luck at 1/4s and i would say i am Young and stable at shooting 

I can do that with an M without IS... And I am old. I think your technique needs some refining.

[Cogito]

On 9/15/2024 at 7:49 AM, PeterBoyadjian said:

Yes but no, but yes. 

The Q3-40mm whatever is coming out soon. 100%

Leica also will put you on a waiting list for the M14, or Q5. 

They won't confirm anything, but will put you on a what list for anything. 

Ok, I’m now on Leica LA’s list for such a rumored camera. Maybe we’ll find out next week if this camera will exist. 

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[mhasman]

22 minutes ago, Cogito said:

...I’m now on Leica LA’s list for such a rumored camera...

How does it work? Whenever I call any Leica OD, I get "We can add you to the list as soon as product is released officially".