Really hope Leica adds a simple 65:24 xpan crop to the Q3

[nariza7]

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I've been really hoping they add this xpan 65:24 aspect ratio to the Leica Q3. I know ppl have added tape and stuff to their screen to simulate the experience, but I'd rather not since it may make other things inconvenient. I've tried using the feature request on the ios Leica Fotos app, but it throws some error saying I can't do it on mobile. I know others have already suggested the 65:24 ratio to Leica (or so it seems), but I hope they see this and add it. Should be a simple software change right?

[SnapshotGR]

They have other crops. I think this is reasonable to ask. Especially useful for jpeg shooters that use ‘looks’

Edited June 22, 2024 by SnapshotGR

[01af]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb AussieQ:

How hard is it to just take the shot and crop it in post? Visualisation people, visualisation.

For the time being, simply use the 50 mm frame lines for vertical and the 28 mm frame lines for horizontal framing.

[jaapv]

I am really puzzled about this desperate need for all kinds of  framelines. Surely people are photographing what they see around them by their own eyes, which don’t even have framelines? Whatever happened to visualization?  Just photograph what you see and refine the composition in your computer. 

The only reasons that Leica put framelines in the Q originally were to strengthen the link to M cameras and to emphasize the intended use as a cropping zoom camera. Now they appear to have taken on an a life of their own and created some kind of gear-dependency. 

[jaapv]

Anyway, to answer the original question: as far as I am aware Q cameras have a panorama mode just for this purpose using the full sensor. Correct me if I am wrong.  

[SnapshotGR]

Can't find panorama mode on my Q3

[jaapv]

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Checked it out. They seem to have dropped it on the Q3. Well, that puts you back at ye olde desktop, I fear. 

Lightroom allows you to set any crop ratio you like, so you can standarize your panorama shots:

https://expertphotography.com/aspect-ratio-in-lightroom/

 

On a sidenote, I would caution against using jpg in-camera for finely detailed shots like panoramas. To much data loss, you may retain the detail, but the quality of the detail deteriorates.

[nariza7]

Visualization and post crop is fine and all since that's all we have now to work with, but the experience I believe is definitely differently. I also don't think it's that big of a feature request since aspect ratios (or frame lines) are already there. For me, it'd just make me feel better when I can view the area while taking the shot, and hopefully the code just requires an extra conditional or switch statement for the 65:24 view or frame line. I guess the main decision they'd have to make is if the 65:24 will be an aspect ratio that gets applied to each of the simulated focal length frame lines, or if it's just its own focal length frame line at 28mm. I don't mind the latter as I'd want it as wide as possible.

[jaapv]

Clutter to me.  I like a viewfinder as free from distractions as possible. 

[Photon42]

Well - Leica did deliberately added frame lines as a feature. So a pano frame (with maybe the option to exactly say what that should be like) is not totally off. But them the XPAN was a Hasselblad ...

 

[jaapv]

As long as it can be switched off 😉

[nariza7]

yeah heh, I dont want to always have xpan shots. Im hoping its simple enough for them to add without much effort, and just be there for those who want to use it. Like how some of the Fuji GFX and aps-c cameras have it. Same with the Panasonic S5 series and S9 having it.

[SnapshotGR]

6 minutes ago, jaapv said:

As long as it can be switched off 😉

I agree. I think it would add value to the product by having it. Little extras and details are nice to have whether used or not. There are features in the Q3 that I don’t use or need so I ignore them. I’d never say it’s best not to have them. 

[Le Chef]

The default in Q3 is no frame lines. If you want them you scroll through until you get what you want. So they probably could add Xpan if enough owners asked for it. 

[jaapv]

To me they would be quality limiting as I think that composition - and framing- are better judged  on a large screen.

[bobtodrick]

Everyone has something the want that is specific to their desire.

If the camera companies did this the menu would be 30 pages and indecipherable.

As some one stated…PREVISUALIZATION!!!

Why does everyone today want everything done for them???

To me half the enjoyment of photography is looking at a scene, thinking of how I want it to look, and actually having to use my skills to achieve that result instead of just thinking some device should do it for me 😡

Edited June 22, 2024 by bobtodrick

[SrMi]

11 hours ago, AussieQ said:

How hard is it to just take the shot and crop it in post? Visualisation people, visualisation.

I do not believe one can visualize a specific crop, since corners always matter. That is why we have director's viewfinders.

[LocalHero1953]

7 hours ago, jaapv said:

The only reasons that Leica put framelines in the Q originally were to strengthen the link to M cameras and to emphasize the intended use as a cropping zoom camera. Now they appear to have taken on an a life of their own and created some kind of gear-dependency. 

The Q system framelines have a valid purpose beyond a visualisation aid, as seems to be frequently forgotten (not picking on Jaap, just using his post as a hook).
The framelines determine the scope of both autoexposure and autofocus. I find both very handy tools if I know I will be cropping to some extent: the camera is forced to ignore highlights and objects outside the frame. If you are taking a portrait, the tightest frame can be used for getting skin exposures right, whatever the background.

This applies to the Q2 - I assume it's the same for the Q and Q3. None of it applies to the M.

Edited June 22, 2024 by LocalHero1953

[SrMi]

31 minutes ago, bobtodrick said:

Everyone has something the want that is specific to their desire.

If the camera companies did this the menu would be 30 pages and indecipherable.

As some one stated…PREVISUALIZATION!!!

Why does everyone today want everything done for them???

To me half the enjoyment of photography is looking at a scene, thinking of how I want it to look, and actually having to use my skills to achieve that result instead of just thinking some device should do it for me 😡

You need framing help, e.g., the director's viewfinder or framing lines in the camera, to achieve the frame that you have "previsualized."

Otherwise, you could shoot everything with a wide-angle lens and crop to whatever you have previsualized ... if you still remember. Without the post-processor showing you what you want to frame, it is tough to reconstruct your previsualization in the field.

Edited June 22, 2024 by SrMi

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[bobtodrick]

23 minutes ago, SrMi said:

You need framing help, e.g., the director's viewfinder or framing lines in the camera, to achieve the frame that you have "previsualized."

Otherwise, you could shoot everything with a wide-angle lens and crop to whatever you have previsualized ... if you still remember. Without the post-processor showing you what you want to frame, it is tough to reconstruct your previsualization in the field.

How did we make do suing the 150 years before digital.

Pretty sure Ansel, HCH, Capa didn’t carry a film directors viewfinder.

Just saying…we all have different needs…sometimes you just have to suck it up and use YOUR brain..,not that of an electronic brain.