Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #21 Posted May 4, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 48 minutes ago, Sohail said: The APOs are not much less "imposing" than the 50/1.4 SL -- especially without the lens hood on. They're only a bit smaller, I'd say. Maybe, but at an event I was at in January more than a few people made a comment about the size of the 50 Lux. No one said anything when I had the 75 on the camera. I may take my 21/35/75 kit and also throw the Light Lens Lab 50mm SP ii in the bag. I can just use the SP ii for the wedding. I don’t mind manually focusing and it will give me more stylized photos that will still look great. It’s “slightly” smaller than my other lenses, too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 4, 2024 Posted May 4, 2024 Hi Dr. G, Take a look here 50 mm SL summilux f1.4 asph or the APO summicron sl 75 mm lens?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #22 Posted May 4, 2024 FWIW, I’m going to try to shoot the 50 Lux against the 75 APO today to see how the renderings compare wide open with similar framing. I won’t be able to use a tripod where I’m going, though - so hopefully it will still be a worthwhile exercise. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted May 4, 2024 Share #23 Posted May 4, 2024 vor 6 Stunden schrieb Dr. G: Maybe, but at an event I was at in January more than a few people made a comment about the size of the 50 Lux. No one said anything when I had the 75 on the camera. I may take my 21/35/75 kit and also throw the Light Lens Lab 50mm SP ii in the bag. I can just use the SP ii for the wedding. I don’t mind manually focusing and it will give me more stylized photos that will still look great. It’s “slightly” smaller than my other lenses, too did the comment from people influence your photographing/ images? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #24 Posted May 4, 2024 2 hours ago, tom0511 said: did the comment from people influence your photographing/ images? Not at all. I was simply responding to the notion that the 50 Lux wasn’t any more imposing than one of the APO SL lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #25 Posted May 4, 2024 (edited) I tried to get shots today of the 75 APO and the Summilux-SL with the same subject filling the frame equally between shots. They're not perfect, and they're also not cropped, so this is the compression and background blur (at least with trees) that can be compared. The one thing that I wasn't expecting was that close up, there was a fairly significant difference in the way each lens rendered the subject. In all the images the Lux was shot at f/1.4 and the APO at f/2. 1. 75 APO 2. 50 Lux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 4, 2024 by Dr. G 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5250593'>More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #26 Posted May 4, 2024 1. 75 APO 2. 50 Lux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5250606'>More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #27 Posted May 4, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1. 75 APO 2. 50 Lux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5250619'>More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted May 4, 2024 Share #28 Posted May 4, 2024 FWIW, this is the 50 APO Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5250647'>More sharing options...
LeicaR10 Posted May 5, 2024 Share #29 Posted May 5, 2024 Dr G, Thank you for taking the time to do the comparision photographs with the lenses. Just a passing thought, your model looks a little stiff...it might just be my eyesight though. IMO, it gets down to personal taste how a photographer wishes to render a scene. My choice is always the 50 Summilux. r/ Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted May 5, 2024 Share #30 Posted May 5, 2024 Not quite the same comparison, but here are two shots taken yesterday with the 90 APO SL and 50/1.4 SL: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5251246'>More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted May 5, 2024 Share #31 Posted May 5, 2024 3 hours ago, LeicaR10 said: Dr G, Thank you for taking the time to do the comparision photographs with the lenses. Just a passing thought, your model looks a little stiff...it might just be my eyesight though. IMO, it gets down to personal taste how a photographer wishes to render a scene. My choice is always the 50 Summilux. r/ Mark I wish I could have had her pose differently - but as a statue I couldn’t ask her to move It was taken at the Grounds for Sculpture near where I live. I wasn’t trying to do anything artistic, here - just find a static subject to show some of the differences between the two lenses as the OP had inquired. I do love the 50 Lux, though. ‘With the 50 Lux: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5251260'>More sharing options...
helged Posted May 5, 2024 Share #32 Posted May 5, 2024 4 hours ago, LeicaR10 said: Dr G, Thank you for taking the time to do the comparision photographs with the lenses. Just a passing thought, your model looks a little stiff...it might just be my eyesight though. IMO, it gets down to personal taste how a photographer wishes to render a scene. My choice is always the 50 Summilux. r/ Mark +1. 50Lux. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted May 5, 2024 Share #33 Posted May 5, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dr. G said: 1. 75 APO 2. 50 Lux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! In close up the face appears fatter (more prominent cheeks) with the 50mm compared to the 75mm. If I needed such a close-up I would use a longer lens. And for human models, using a 50mm at close range risks invading their personal space. I guess it's fine if they are sitting on your lap though........ Edited May 5, 2024 by LocalHero1953 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted May 5, 2024 Share #34 Posted May 5, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sohail said: Not quite the same comparison, but here are two shots taken yesterday with the 90 APO SL and 50/1.4 SL: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That 'vibrating' screen in the background illustrates why I am cautious about using the Apo-Summicrons where the bokeh is important in the shot. It catches the eye too much. Edited May 5, 2024 by LocalHero1953 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted May 5, 2024 Share #35 Posted May 5, 2024 15 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: That 'vibrating' screen in the background illustrates why I am cautious about using the Apo-Summicrons where the bokeh is important in the shot. It catches the eye too much. By vibrating, you mean it's a little more busy. It depends on how far the background is and what's in it. People are rendered better. See Post #17. But, yes, the 50/1.4 is more pleasing here. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted May 5, 2024 Share #36 Posted May 5, 2024 1 hour ago, Sohail said: By vibrating, you mean it's a little more busy. It depends on how far the background is and what's in it. People are rendered better. See Post #17. But, yes, the 50/1.4 is more pleasing here. As long as you don't have thousands of images to go through, busy/nervous oof rendering can be blurred in post. For those allergic to busy oof rendering, Sigma 85mm DG DN is an option. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted May 5, 2024 Share #37 Posted May 5, 2024 (edited) Owning both lenses it als appears I don't use the 75 as much as I though. The Bokeh is not super duper smooth however in most cases its fine and it renders very 3d. The 50 SL Lux has something special though. If I had to do it again I would exchange my 75 for a 90 probably. Eventhough 75 is more flexible for many things IMO.In case of the 2 images posted before...I slightly prefer the 75 image, but more because of focal length / compression. Edited May 5, 2024 by tom0511 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted May 5, 2024 Share #38 Posted May 5, 2024 I’m not sure that you see all of the benefits of the Summilux where the subject is to isolated from the background, though the quality of the oof areas is clear. For me, where the Summilux shines is when there is gentle roll off between the in focus and out of focus areas. That said, for a wedding, I prefer longer focal lengths for the compression and I can stand-off more, getting unguarded moments. I tend not to be the “formal” photographer; just sumplementing what they do with some additional images (pain for the photographer, but usually the couple is pleased). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted May 6, 2024 Share #39 Posted May 6, 2024 On 5/3/2024 at 11:17 AM, Dr. G said: Now I have a dilemma. I have a friend's wedding to attend in Cabo next weekend and I'm debating what lenses to take with me for the trip. It's either 21/35/75 APO, 21/35/50 APO or 21/35 APO and 50 Lux. Kit needs to be able to do some photos at the wedding as well as travel photography while I'm there. Part of me thinks the 50 Lux is better left at home because as a guest, that's an imposing lens to be using. The 35 APO is so highly resolving that I could use it in APS-C mode on my SL3 and I'll still have great looking images at a 50mm equivalent. Tough call. You want the Semi-tele. I would go 21/35/75. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohail Posted May 7, 2024 Share #40 Posted May 7, 2024 (edited) On 5/5/2024 at 2:05 PM, helged said: As long as you don't have thousands of images to go through, busy/nervous oof rendering can be blurred in post. For those allergic to busy oof rendering, Sigma 85mm DG DN is an option. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Easy to "fix" in ACR. Edited May 7, 2024 by Sohail 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Easy to "fix" in ACR. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/392591-50-mm-sl-summilux-f14-asph-or-the-apo-summicron-sl-75-mm-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5254913'>More sharing options...
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