venividivici Posted November 29, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) It's just an idea of the concept. What do you think? A RAW only digital MP without a display, plus a few accessories. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bradreiman Posted November 29, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 29, 2007 i like everything except the manual shutter cock and the motor and the module. i always wanted the m8 to be more manual, i like the iso control and no display...b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted November 29, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 29, 2007 I can live without the LCD but I doubt many other won't like it ... perhaps Leica can make a flip out LCD, you can have the ISO dial when it's closed and turn on the LCD when flipping out. This draft looks pretty cool ... good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 29, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 29, 2007 Yes!... except I think I would want the LCD, even if I sometimes turn it off. Hmm, I am working on some similar ideas and you got them out there first... Like the manual winding lever and a winder for the digital M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted November 29, 2007 Share #5 Posted November 29, 2007 I would have preferred a manual shutter cock for the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Brittenson Posted November 29, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 29, 2007 I'd buy it. Lose the rear screen and the built in motor of the M8. MP style metering would be perfect. Frame lines for 24x36. I understand it wouldn't be usable with really wide lenses, but that's OK - I can use the M8 for that. I'd want a digital MP for a 35mm lens and that's pretty much it. Maybe a 75 or 90 on occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stnolan Posted November 29, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Really like it. I wouldn't miss the LCD screen if it were gone and would cease the worry about scratching or breaking it, which is an expensive fix. Also an easier way to switch out memory cards would be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookeye Posted November 29, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 29, 2007 It is just like the digital M of my dreams. I do not like the "Cartridge M" - but according your concept it is optional - so I can live with that too. Wishful thinking, but nice, very nice ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted November 29, 2007 Share #9 Posted November 29, 2007 except the direct access to ISO setting and the possibility to delay the shutter cocking.. not having a screen just sounds like a non sense to me.... and making the camera 1.5 or twice the size by adding motor or screen sounds plainly stupid to me. why don't you keep your MP and buy a good scanner? Why do you want to go digital if you do not take advantage of digital technology apart from a sensor instead of a film.....???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 29, 2007 Share #10 Posted November 29, 2007 "Featuring classic M3 style top plate larger viewfinder (0.75x)" The M3 is 0.91x. A 0.75x viewfinder would be close to the wide 0.72x VF of classical m2/m4/m6/m7 bodies. The only 'digital M3' is and will probably remain the Epson R-D1 (and R-D1s) with its 1:1 viewfinder. Leica cannot compete i'm afraid because a 1:1 VF would imply a larger finder window which could not fit the goggles of some special lenses like 35/1.4, 35/2, 35/2.8, 90/4 or 135/2.8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted November 29, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 29, 2007 It's got my vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 29, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 29, 2007 Whats the rewind do? Will it have AF confirmation and GPS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpStart Posted November 29, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 29, 2007 Nope, I like all the features of the M8 right now, including the LCD. The big benefit with digital is the ability to check your images after you shoot them. Why would you want to loose that benefit? If you don't want to see them, simply disable the function. The only thing I would change if I could would be the sound of the shutter. I would make it as close to silent as possible. Of course, the IR issue, the ISO issue, and the WB issue too. my 2 cents DBK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HetDraakje Posted November 29, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 29, 2007 As most of the times I check the photo for to much highlight clipping, I would suggest some sort of indicator of % clipping instead of the LCD on the M8. In that case I think I would love the concept of this Digital MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 29, 2007 Share #15 Posted November 29, 2007 And the jpg issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted November 29, 2007 Share #16 Posted November 29, 2007 Nice idea... but I think that renouncing to LCD is a hard move, and the proposed add-on is too bulky ... why not a credit card size add-on LCD to be inserted when one likes (and connected...): - Over the back - At the left or right side - At the bottom (angled ?) ... and the sensor could be anyway 18x27 ... I'd expect too many issues with the present WAs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venividivici Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share #17 Posted November 29, 2007 Wow! Thanks for all your replies. To egibaud: Yes, I have a film scanner, Nikon VED. The results are simply great. But, the reason I want digital in that MP is mostly about "turn around time", or "lead time", i.e. time it takes from the moment you take the picture to the moment you see the result properly (LCD playback won't satisfactory). The digital MP in this concept would deliver the in about a day, to view on a good screen or print on paper. Whereas films will take about a week. Time would have emotional effects here, at least to me. About missing the LCD, it's really a compromise. In my view there are two concerns about this: 1. total thickness of the body, I did try to "fit" a swivel screen onto the back of the camera. It is just to thick, and doesn't look nice. The hinge it required could be difficult to manufacture. 2. yes, stnolan, without the LCD screen at the back means it could be simply a metal plate at the back. This would allow us to carry it like your film Ms and not to worry about any impact towards the back. About the "Cartridge M": Well, just an option for ppl who really can't live without a screen. The unit can be used independently for viewing and managing images (think of it as a multimedia storage like Epson P-4000), as well as attached to the main body. It will be able to record images directly. There are a few different configurations according to one's need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikFive Posted November 29, 2007 Share #18 Posted November 29, 2007 I will have a digital MP as soon as Dr Leo B finishes his Digital back prototype for M camera in a month or so;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted November 29, 2007 Share #19 Posted November 29, 2007 well it's all about taste and way of working with a camera. I am happy with the M8, I just wish they could fix some issues, but not make a new revolution. I would also be surprised that Leica would make this kind of MP, surely not without screen the market would be even more limited and I could hardly see customers from other brand jump onto the Leica wagon with a digital MP instead of an M8. Anyway what I do NOT criticize at all is the design work you have done, good work! Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted November 30, 2007 Share #20 Posted November 30, 2007 I really like it too. But could you make the battery chamber and the SD card slot accessible externally, and dump the baseplate? Nice job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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