Guest Posted March 10, 2024 Share #41 Posted March 10, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, JohnSantaF4 said: How can one validate that the Q3 itself is not a knockoff? That is a bigger concern, isn’t it? Try the camera for a few days and see if it has any bugs or annoyances. If it doesn't then it's a knockoff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cookedart Posted March 12, 2024 Share #42 Posted March 12, 2024 Received the MotoQueen and it seems like it is a dead ringer for the official. I'm almost leaning towards it being an Amazon mixup with the real ones getting shipped in place of the knockoff. I'd have to see them side by side, but the box is official looking with a hologram and Leica logo, with it saying it's made in Portugal. Mine even came with a Leica branded two pack of screen protectors. The thumb grip itself seems larger than it needs to be for my purposes, but the extra throw on both function buttons makes fn2 especially much more tactile. Also my concern about the exposure compensation dial being out of the way or awkward to each with the thumb rest in place is unfounded, it works great. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted March 17, 2024 Share #43 Posted March 17, 2024 One warning I've found when wearing my Q3 with the MotoQueen thumb support. It's just loose enough in the hot shoe that if it gets bumped dangling at my side, the thumb support can be knocked out of place. Luckily I noticed before it fell out completely! I've secured it with some gaffers tape but I would advise testing how tight it is in your hot shoe, lest you risk losing it at an inopportune moment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyred Posted March 17, 2024 Share #44 Posted March 17, 2024 15 hours ago, cookedart said: One warning I've found when wearing my Q3 with the MotoQueen thumb support. It's just loose enough in the hot shoe that if it gets bumped dangling at my side, the thumb support can be knocked out of place. Luckily I noticed before it fell out completely! I've secured it with some gaffers tape but I would advise testing how tight it is in your hot shoe, lest you risk losing it at an inopportune moment. Thanks for the heads up - I just checked my q3 > motoqueen 'connection - it's solid - no play - I'll keep an eye out in case it starts to wiggle with more use. again - thanks - btw - i just got an email from B&H - as of that email - earlier today - they just received the official Leica thumb grip in black and it's iin stock - of course that could change quickly. I'll do another post so more people can see the notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyred Posted March 17, 2024 Share #45 Posted March 17, 2024 email from B&H today Mar 17, 2024 Good News! Leica Thumb Support Q3 (Aluminum, Black) is now in stock! GET YOURS Please note: This notification is sent on a first-come-first-served basis. The item was in stock and available for online purchase at the time we sent this email. However, we cannot guarantee that this item will remain available. To confirm availability for in-store purchase at our NYC SuperStore in person, please call 800-718-5999. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted March 18, 2024 Share #46 Posted March 18, 2024 8 hours ago, Dannyred said: Thanks for the heads up - I just checked my q3 > motoqueen 'connection - it's solid - no play - I'll keep an eye out in case it starts to wiggle with more use. again - thanks - btw - i just got an email from B&H - as of that email - earlier today - they just received the official Leica thumb grip in black and it's iin stock - of course that could change quickly. I'll do another post so more people can see the notice. To be clear, it didn't feel like there was any play in mine whatsoever either, but when moving around all day shooting, I found the grip in two different situations partly slipping off. I'm sure it bumped against my body in a specific direction to cause it to move. I don't think it feels especially wiggly, but tightening it up gas definitely made it feel rock solid now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangefinder Posted July 2, 2024 Share #47 Posted July 2, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got a Q3 last week along with a few "do-dads" to get it ready to use. I looked around for a Leica Thumb Support and found one. I placed the order for it on Monday, June 24. I had the shipping notice the next day with estimated delivery on Friday, the 28th. Friday came and went as did Saturday and Sunday. After an inquiry, I got this: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Well, dang. After another search, I found a couple in brass but that didn't appeal. Finally, I looked on Amazon and came across the MOTOQUEEN piece. I ordered it yesterday afternoon and it was on my doorstep by 6:00 AM this morning. I was surprised to see see the Leica branding and Made in Portugal on the piece. Fit and finish is perfect. The buttons function well and the camera is definitely more secure in my old hands. Mike Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Well, dang. After another search, I found a couple in brass but that didn't appeal. Finally, I looked on Amazon and came across the MOTOQUEEN piece. I ordered it yesterday afternoon and it was on my doorstep by 6:00 AM this morning. I was surprised to see see the Leica branding and Made in Portugal on the piece. Fit and finish is perfect. The buttons function well and the camera is definitely more secure in my old hands. Mike ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/389472-thumb-support-for-q3-too-good-to-be-true/?do=findComment&comment=5400641'>More sharing options...
Dannyred Posted July 2, 2024 Share #48 Posted July 2, 2024 On 2/20/2024 at 9:13 AM, egrossman said: My Q3 arrives today and I ordered a generic thumb support from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKH5BX2S?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) for $100. This is what arrived. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I ordered from the same vendor (on Amazon) several months ago. My grip did not have the 'made in Portugal' engraving - I think it says it "Made in Germany. The grip I received looks great, fits great, and works great. I purchased it when Leica was back ordered on the black OEM grip. Initially, I would have liked to have the original OEM, but at the end of the day, I didn't want to wait. It looks like it's still out of stock. Sure, there are quite a few opinions about buying OEM vs Chinese knockoffs. I'm a sellout as long as the product is not misrepresented and the quality is equal to or better. It's not that I love sending money to Chinese entities - and I won't live or die if I donate an extra 150.00 or so to Leica (the incremental price of the OEM) - but it's not like the money is going to an American co (I live in the US) - so either way I'm exporting dollars to a foreign country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyred Posted July 2, 2024 Share #49 Posted July 2, 2024 28 minutes ago, Blues Bird said: There is no way of denying it: Everybody who buys these knockoffs supports the exploitative working conditions in the Chinese counterfeiting industry and damages the Leica brand. How one can still celebrate that here is beyond me. I'm not sure anyone is "celebrating" their purchase as much as sharing (as many forums tend to be all about sharing - sometimes for confirmation of choice, sometimes to turn people onto something, sometimes to share a caution, etc). I'm not sure if Leica has a patent on the grip. If not - then the counterfeiting accusation is a bit extreme. Copying may be more appropriate. I agree that engraving "Leica" is a bit of a misrepresentation/trademark infringement. The Chinese working at these companies might not have any jobs and no income without these 'exploitive' jobs. Of course, the Chinese have been accused of child labor, which is abhorrent under any circumstances. And working conditions are supposed to be substandard in many factories - even Foxconn, where, among other products, iPhones are assembled (and I'm not ready to give up my iPhone). Some improvements have been made since the stories came out years ago, but the exploitation remains. Indeed, this is an issue more for the Chinese than for the rest of the world - UNLESS - all nations join in enforcing all the applicable laws broken in that country (labor laws as defined in Western countries). - As for damaging the Leica brand. In this particular case, I'm unsure how much damage is being done. When I mentioned these to two different Leica store reps - they were underwhelmed by the news. Certainly not as aggressive as LVHM police would be. I applaud your steadfast support for the brand's integrity and the vilification of Chinese labor laws (or lack thereof). You are more moral than me. I decided to get the knockoff, report it to Leica, and move on. Cheers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnapshotGR Posted July 2, 2024 Share #50 Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Blues Bird said: There is no way of denying it: Everybody who buys these knockoffs supports the exploitative working conditions in the Chinese counterfeiting industry and damages the Leica brand. How one can still celebrate that here is beyond me. I want to know how you are certain it is counterfeit or Chinese. Your constant moaning about it is tiresome. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyred Posted July 2, 2024 Share #51 Posted July 2, 2024 On 3/17/2024 at 1:39 PM, Dannyred said: email from B&H today Mar 17, 2024 Good News! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica Thumb Support Q3 (Aluminum, Black) is now in stock! GET YOURS Please note: This notification is sent on a first-come-first-served basis. The item was in stock and available for online purchase at the time we sent this email. However, we cannot guarantee that this item will remain available. To confirm availability for in-store purchase at our NYC SuperStore in person, please call 800-718-5999. as of Jul 2, 2024 - on backorder - eta 7-14 days 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted July 3, 2024 Share #52 Posted July 3, 2024 (edited) On 3/10/2024 at 9:05 PM, JohnSantaF4 said: How can one validate that the Q3 itself is not a knockoff? That is a bigger concern, isn’t it? Oh, I would have thought that a "knock-off" would show up when one registered one's camera with Leica I should add that on a trip to Beijing, once there I realised that I had left my iPhone charger behind. I walked out of the hotel in to a fancy mall on Wangfujing, and went into the first electronics store. A Chinese sales person showed me two identical pieces (boxes, documentation, etc); one was for USD 10 and the other for USD 40. I asked about the difference between the two. In perfect English, the lady answered: one has made the round trip to the US, the other hasn't. Of course I bought the one less travelled! It worked perfectly Edited July 3, 2024 by student 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangefinder Posted July 8, 2024 Share #53 Posted July 8, 2024 Well, well, a UPS sleuth found my now well traveled Leica thumb support! The box was a bit tattered but the product was just fine: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! "The luck of the Irish!" Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! "The luck of the Irish!" Mike ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/389472-thumb-support-for-q3-too-good-to-be-true/?do=findComment&comment=5411501'>More sharing options...
David Wien Posted July 8, 2024 Share #54 Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/2/2024 at 10:31 PM, Rangefinder said: I got a Q3 last week along with a few "do-dads" to get it ready to use. I looked around for a Leica Thumb Support and found one. I placed the order for it on Monday, June 24. I had the shipping notice the next day with estimated delivery on Friday, the 28th. Friday came and went as did Saturday and Sunday. After an inquiry, I got this: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Well, dang. After another search, I found a couple in brass but that didn't appeal. Finally, I looked on Amazon and came across the MOTOQUEEN piece. I ordered it yesterday afternoon and it was on my doorstep by 6:00 AM this morning. I was surprised to see see the Leica branding and Made in Portugal on the piece. Fit and finish is perfect. The buttons function well and the camera is definitely more secure in my old hands. Mike The email sounds like it was written by a robot! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Wien Posted July 8, 2024 Share #55 Posted July 8, 2024 On 7/2/2024 at 10:49 PM, Blues Bird said: There is no way of denying it: Everybody who buys these knockoffs supports the exploitative working conditions in the Chinese counterfeiting industry and damages the Leica brand. How one can still celebrate that here is beyond me. Leica shouldnt sell them at such an inflated price: it is just asking for knock offs! David 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shopaholic Posted July 9, 2024 Share #56 Posted July 9, 2024 It’s really a shame that Amazon does nothing to stop the piracy and turns a blind eye, and FTC doesn’t get involved either! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLamb Posted July 9, 2024 Share #57 Posted July 9, 2024 (edited) It's has wider implications than the FTC jurisdiction. It's a global problem that needs addressing globally, not just in the US and not just by Amazon. Edited July 9, 2024 by SLamb 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shopaholic Posted July 9, 2024 Share #58 Posted July 9, 2024 Very true, we cannot control Aliexpress, but US /EUAmazon is a major offender and will put a big dent in their business. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted July 12, 2024 Share #59 Posted July 12, 2024 The best course would be for Leica to have a rethink over its profit margins. For example the Native Union wireless charger with the addition of a Leica logo sells for a multiple of what Native Union sells its identical one without the Leica logo– this can only send prospective buyers to Native Union. As for the thumb grip, Ali Express offers a choice, presumably in terms of quality variation. The better ones come in Leica packing with Leica markings and documents, and Made in Portugal duly stamped. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD70 Posted July 13, 2024 Share #60 Posted July 13, 2024 Here's a new one I found on the Leicarumors site. I like it! Doesn't block any buttons, and stows out of the way when you don't need it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/389472-thumb-support-for-q3-too-good-to-be-true/?do=findComment&comment=5420772'>More sharing options...
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