The most flexible Camera: Leica Q3 - Review.

[ChrisQ3]

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[Ernesto Villalba]

It's curious that no one talks in the YouTube reviews about the insecurity that shooting with it creates with the famous exposure bug it has. Hopefully it will be solved in the next firmware that according to Leica is on the way.

[David Wien]

5 minutes ago, Ernesto Villalba said:

It's curious that no one talks in the YouTube reviews about the insecurity that shooting with it creates with the famous exposure bug it has. Hopefully it will be solved in the next firmware that according to Leica is on the way.

This is a new one to me. In what does it consist, please?

David

[Ernesto Villalba]

You can check this post. Fingers crossed it gets fixed soon and we can use this camera to its full potential.  

 

[EV80]

The main problem comes from the fact that when you half press the shutter the exposure changes, so you never know the correct exposure that the RAW will record. It's random and it doesn't always happen, but it almost always happens. It becomes more annoying even in the follow focus mode, which works great, but unfortunately it changes the preview of the photo, so that by continuously focusing you don't see the correct exposure.
There are some other bugs but less important..

[jps1]

This is not a defect!

Here is an excerpt from the documentation

While the trigger is kept on, the brightness of the screen image shows the repercussions of the selected exposure settings. This allows before shooting to evaluate and control the effect on the image produced by the exposure adjustment. This is valid as long as the brightness of the pattern and the defined exposure do not give brightness values that are much too low or too high.

You have to read the documentation ( page 116 )

Edited November 15, 2023 by jps1

[M11 for me]

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vor 13 Stunden schrieb David Wien:

This is a new one to me. In what does it consist, please?

David

As you ask this question you most probably did not experience this yet. And I can tell you that I did not either. There are cameras that seem to have some bug. Bug don't worry: The vast majority is fine.

[Viv]

Thankfully, my Q2 has not yet received the electronic pulse from Leica that will make it obsolete.

[EV80]

6 hours ago, jps1 said:

This is not a defect!

Here is an excerpt from the documentation

While the trigger is kept on, the brightness of the screen image shows the repercussions of the selected exposure settings. This allows before shooting to evaluate and control the effect on the image produced by the exposure adjustment. This is valid as long as the brightness of the pattern and the defined exposure do not give brightness values that are much too low or too high.

You have to read the documentation ( page 116 )

This makes no sense that this is the case (even though it is in the manual) Any camera shows the preview with the settings you have at that moment and not "when it is too high or low it may look good but it will be bad." How much is too much? makes its use very confusing and unsafe. In the next sentence you can see that it says “This can be disabled using PASM mode, which is how I and everyone who comments on this bug have it selected.

What's more, it is something that only happens sometimes and not always as I mentioned.

[EV80]

I invite you to try the camera all in manual, ISO, shutter and diaphragm and select Following Focus (AF-S or AF-C no matter). You will see how you cannot focus without the exposure being affected and showing it differently than how the photo will be saved while you are following a object.

Edited November 15, 2023 by EV80

[jps1]

Sorry to contradict you but I still use my Q3 in manual, and it's quite normal that the exposure changes according to the lighting of the scene when you move the device.

I invite you to use a Q3.

[EV80]

Try what I tell you and you'll see what I'm saying. The exposure changes while the focus motor is working, focusing (without moving from the plane obviously). Do you really think I don't know how to use the camera?

Edited November 15, 2023 by EV80

[Le Chef]

1 hour ago, EV80 said:

Try what I tell you and you'll see what I'm saying. The exposure changes while the focus motor is working, focusing (without moving from the plane obviously). Do you really think I don't know how to use the camera?

Why would you expect it not to change?

[FusionX.Photo]

On 11/14/2023 at 7:25 PM, EV80 said:

The main problem comes from the fact that when you half press the shutter the exposure changes, so you never know the correct exposure that the RAW will record. It's random and it doesn't always happen, but it almost always happens. It becomes more annoying even in the follow focus mode, which works great, but unfortunately it changes the preview of the photo, so that by continuously focusing you don't see the correct exposure.
There are some other bugs but less important..

It’s not a bug it’s a feature that highlights your inability to set the exposure correctly.

[Qwertynm]

a guess: does it have something to do with the PDAF pixels trying to find enough contrast to focus? If there's not enough contrast, the change in exposure is visible in the viewfinder, once you take the image your original settings are applied and the image looks "correct" to you. But the camera only wanted to focus and didn't have enough contrast for this brief period you half pressed the shutter.

[EV80]

Thanks for your answer! Yes, I already knew it is for this reason. Canon, for example, also does this operation but the user does not see it on the screen, but rather "thinks" internally. The problem in the case I am mentioning is that when using Follow Focus (it is focusing all the time), so you should not lose the real exposure that you have configured otherwise you are not seeing a preview that works for you. You can only know "what you are doing" when you stop focusing. 

[EV80]

On 11/21/2023 at 5:20 PM, FusionX.Photo said:

It’s not a bug it’s a feature that highlights your inability to set the exposure correctly.

Thanks for your answer FusionX.photo ! yes I have seen that. But if that's the case, it seems like a mistake to me that it does it, in fact the camera does it only occasionally depending on the configuration and if everything is in auto or some things. The ideal would be for it not to always see the exhibition with the configuration you have, not to show it to you "correctly" so that you later have to correct it. I hope this is solved, if so it would be the almost perfect camera.