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If you're talking about the jpeg settings, I use sRGB. I would only have it output jpegs (in addition to raws) if I needed them for a quick review for myself or a client. AdobeRGB isn't needed, and sRGB is the colorspace required for Web display, so sRGB will serve all your purposes without any changes. AdobeRGB won't. 

 

 

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On 4/25/2024 at 7:25 PM, epines said:

If you're talking about the jpeg settings, I use sRGB. I would only have it output jpegs (in addition to raws) if I needed them for a quick review for myself or a client. AdobeRGB isn't needed, and sRGB is the colorspace required for Web display, so sRGB will serve all your purposes without any changes. AdobeRGB won't. 

 

 

This is a photography forum. A photograph is only complete when it is printed, so it makes sense to use the full gamut of your printer. Which means use Adobe RGB throughout the imaging process (Lightroom uses Prophoto in the background) and only dumb down to sRGB when saving for Web. Or for an older printer which cannot handle Adobe RGB.

 

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5 hours ago, jaapv said:

This is a photography forum. A photograph is only complete when it is printed, so it makes sense to use the full gamut of your printer. Which means use Adobe RGB throughout the imaging process (Lightroom uses Prophoto in the background) and only dumb down to sRGB when saving for Web. Or for an older printer which cannot handle Adobe RGB.

 

I find this reply to my post to be unnecessarily patronizing and rude. Yes, I know it's a photography forum, thank you so much for that. I was assuming the OP was asking about the jpeg settings in the camera, which why I began my post with, "If you're talking about the jpeg settings." I assume the OP is also shooting raws in addition to jpegs. Now, if the OP was asking about which RGB to use while working on an image and making a final output, it's AdobeRGB. The OP didn't provide any context about why they're asking the question.

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I’m rather amazed that anybody can find a simple factual post patronizing and rude. Even if it is something that is basic to you which I assume, consider that we are not the only ones reading these posts. From expert to sheer beginner. 
Not only cameras have JPG settings, so have raw converters and postprocessing programs. And yes, I only regard a photograph as complete when printed. So “Adobe RGB is not needed “ is an oversimplification, asking to be corrected. 

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I would think that at a forum on the Leica S system everyone would be either a professional or a highly skilled amateur. I'm not saying that any beginner couldn't buy an S, but s/he would be better served with something else. I agree with Jaap that Adobe RGB is the standard. I understand that someone may export in sRGB for web because of monitors gamut and all that, but would not make much sense to use it as the working color space. 

I also print my photographs myself so what I do until there's a final print (usually large) matters. Now that I have a plotter than can do it all, I never give a photograph to be printed elsewhere, even if that means that the image is not sold or does not contribute to a group exhibit, except for the books (so no 300 ppl to be printed in crystal fuji paper, which I hate, for a group show). And with books I do the conversion into CMYK myself and supervise test runs.

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20 hours ago, jaapv said:

This is a photography forum. A photograph is only complete when it is printed, so it makes sense to use the full gamut of your printer.

I find @epines post absolutely appropriate and considerate answer to the initial question. I’d have said exactly the same. 

That said, I totally get the printing aspect (now own a Canon Pro 4600) but assuming that printing is to everyone at the core of their work is very likely not matching reality. I guess 98% of raw-based and adequately edited photos shot on high-capable gear remain in the digital realm, and there Adobe98 is a legacy colour space of yesterday when editing applications didn't have their own proprietary human-vision-exceeding digital colour working space. 

I totally agree that Adobe98 is meaningful when viewing in that space print proofs to match best the anticipated outcome on an Adobe98-capable monitor and to have Tiffs in that space for printing when using Mirage, but as a setting for JPEGs out of camera that are meant to live for display in the digital space, only sRGB makes sense as 99.9% of every-day digital displays do not use Adobe98 but sRGB.  

Adobe98 images in web applications do look off. Even more a reason to advocate for sRGB. 

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21 hours ago, jaapv said:

A photograph is only complete when it is printed

Printing represents only a tiny fraction of my photographs taken and retained. It also represents only a tiny fraction of my photographs productively used (online by myself and others). 

I guess I'm just an incomplete photographer.

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4 hours ago, hansvons said:

I find @epines post absolutely appropriate and considerate answer to the initial question. I’d have said exactly the same. 

That said, I totally get the printing aspect (now own a Canon Pro 4600) but assuming that printing is to everyone at the core of their work is very likely not matching reality. I guess 98% of raw-based and adequately edited photos shot on high-capable gear remain in the digital realm, and there Adobe98 is a legacy colour space of yesterday when editing applications didn't have their own proprietary human-vision-exceeding digital colour working space. 

I totally agree that Adobe98 is meaningful when viewing in that space print proofs to match best the anticipated outcome on an Adobe98-capable monitor and to have Tiffs in that space for printing when using Mirage, but as a setting for JPEGs out of camera that are meant to live for display in the digital space, only sRGB makes sense as 99.9% of every-day digital displays do not use Adobe98 but sRGB.  

Adobe98 images in web applications do look off. Even more a reason to advocate for sRGB. 

For use when the other side has unknown viewing, sure. As I said all the time, yes, the lowest common denominator is appropriate, but even that is changing. Quite a few browsers support Adobe RGB now. 
For own personal use? Why not match your monitor?.
The times are past tht we mainly used sRGB screens for our photos. Apple uses P3 which is approx. Adobe RGB, most quality screens that are sold for photo editing are more than 90% Adobe RGB, mostly 99-100% and it won't be too long before Prophoto screens become more or less affordable - although I do not quite se the usefulness there, as Prophoto exceeds the gamut of the human eye, especially in the blues. Times they are a-changin'...

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