How much would you pay for the Leica R10 DSLR?

[rosuna]

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The Canon 1Ds Mark III costs $8,000, but it is a beast with 2 microprocessors, 22Mp, 5 f.p.s rate, etc. I expect a much lower price for a much simpler (but high quality) product. In any case, it will be great.

[4season]

Personally, I think $8000 for their only DSLR offering would be a disaster, and $5000+ would not be ideal. I think even the M8 was never intended to be so expensive: At it's original price of 4200 Euros, that would have once been about what, 3300 USD at old exchange rates? Meanwhile, M lenses selling for over $4000 have been either discontinued or reduced to special order status, and new ones selling for under $1500 have been introduced.

[lct]

How many of us would pay $8000 here? I seem to recall that M and R bodies have always been close price-wise so $6000 sound like a fair price IMmostHO

[mgcd]

... I want to be able to make large prints, such as I have been doing for years with my film R's. This means I want to be able to make 26" x 40" prints at a minimum of 200 dpi. Arithmetic shows that a 40 megapixel sensor will be needed for this.

 

 

I do this easily with my DMR now as the image below will attest.

 

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[Ignatz_Mouse]

I'm only interested in the R10 if we're talkin' about a full frame 16 Mpx (or more) with autofocus or focus confirmation DSLR. In other case, I'll keep using my R9/DMR combo. I'm not going to pay more than 5.000 euro for the R10.

[graham_mitchell]

A 1.3 crop is worthless given that we already have the DMR. I'm pretty positive the R10 will be full frame and something special.

[xjr]

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Nothing .....but would add another MP and perhaps a 28mmf2.0 to my gear. But would consider a LUMIX FX30.

[santila]

I have no extra money left for Leica products. I buy Nikon which is lightyears ahead of current Leaica gear.

I am running three system (DH2, 1DMKII and R8) my opinion based on the experience on these cameras.

[4season]

I have no extra money left for Leica products.

 

I know that feeling

 

I have no problem with the DMR's image quality, but in the best of times, it would've been barely affordable to me had I already owned an R8/R9 body, but I didn't. And it's a bit much to carry every day.

 

I had a brief look at Nikon's D3 and D300 and they looked very nice. Autofocus and 5-8 FPS are pretty much irrelevant to me.

[grduprey]

I have no extra money left for Leica products. I buy Nikon which is lightyears ahead of current Leaica gear.

I am running three system (DH2, 1DMKII and R8) my opinion based on the experience on these cameras.

 

The Nikon bodies are ahead of Leica, but the lenses are not even in the same ballpark as the R lenses. My R lenses crush my Nikkors easily, so I sold them.

 

Gene

[Jamie Roberts]

Let's assume that the R10 DSLR begins shipping in Nov 2008 and that it features the tried-and-true combination of 1.3x, 10mp and no optical antialiasing, but that it offers improved performance over the DMR and M8 in terms of white balance, high ISO noise and IR sensitivity. No new lens mount, no autofocus, just a very good and attractive R camera.

 

And let's also assume that the failure rates and repair turnaround times are about the same as the M8.

 

What would you be willing to pay for such a beast?

 

Not a penny. It would be outdated and not significantly better than my DMR.

 

A quick edit: if they have increased resolution, ff crop and some other goodies (like buffer speed) in a newly ergonomic package (something the size of a 5d or slightly bigger), then I have a top end of about $6K CAD for this. Otherwise, whatever Canon does with the 5d follow-on is going to get looked at very, very closely, since I can put almost all my R glass on that.

[telyt]

I buy Nikon which is lightyears ahead of current Leica gear.

 

Does the D2H output 16-bit files, or are they interpolated to 16 bits per pixel? Are you satisfied with its dynamic range?

[sdai]

Does the D2H output 16-bit files, or are they interpolated to 16 bits per pixel? Are you satisfied with its dynamic range?

 

The D2H was an experiment when Nikon first ventured into the sensor design area ... turned out to be a fiasco and ignited a wave of long time faithfuls switching to Canon.

[santila]

Doug, if I would buy a DMR it is because of you. Most of the posted photos I seen not

even come to close to your photos and if I would base my decision on those photos I

would not buy the DMR but through you I see what the camera is capable to do.

 

Yes I am happy with the D2H what I am doing with it. Small files, fast, good ergonomic,

produce good A4 size for my marketing area, etc What more can I say then each to his

own. Again I reiterate that I am running more then one system and I have first hand result

but again I choose the camera for the occasion and not for prestige.

 

Most digital cameras produce great images in the right hands. My question is how much

better you want your image look and for what, certainly not will be suppressing 2-1/4

Rollei or Hasselbad images not to mention images from 4x5".

[telyt]

Sandor, my previous post was somewhat rude, I apologize. I think that what is more helpful than a blanket statement about one product being beyond another is to specify the conditions where one product out-performs another. Clearly there are conditions where features of the high-end Nikon bodies make those cameras more useful than the Rx/DMR, and vice versa.

[bono0272]

M8 is now selling at around EURO 3500 at Hong Kong, I would consider to buy a R10 if it costs no more than EURO 5000 with FF and higher pixels, otherwise I would keep using my R8/DMR and go looking for the 5D successor.

[ravnishgandhi.com]

my dealer in melbourne tells me it will be aud 20000+ as it is a 20 megapixel camera meant to compete with medium format

[mgcd]

my dealer in melbourne tells me it will be aud 20000+ as it is a 20 megapixel camera meant to compete with medium format

 

That would be one sure way to kill the R line...

[sdai]

That would be one sure way to kill the R line...

 

That doesn't make much sense to me either, Conrad ... although I've been fancying a slightly larger than FF 4:5 28x35mm R10, which is doable without ditching the existing R mount, no need to change the mirror box, perhaps just a slightly larger ground glass and taller prism.

 

20MP won't stack up in the medium format market in 2008, I'm pretty sure in the next year the bar is gonna be raised and 30+MP will be the entry point, be it a Hasselblad or the phantom PhaseOne/Mamiya. Even Pentax had moved up to 33MP Kodak in their still born 645 digital.

 

Leica could start a new lineup if they see there's enough room to compete in the MF market, I don't expect to a monster R camera ... despite the Bigger is Better thread I've started, hey, if I want a MF digital and am ready to pay 20k+, I'd have bought it now ... today, yesterday, there's no need, no reason to wait till 2008.

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[sdai]

These medium format thing has been persistent and we've heard it from 2 or 3 members already, all from Australia, Ken and another gentleman I don't recall his name. If there's really such a thing, perhaps it's the X camera people heard from Dr. Kauffman at this year's LHSA meeting? there must be a reason why Leica tried to scoop up Sinar ... perhaps Hasselblad broke up with Leica knowing they're destined to be a direct competitor?