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15 hours ago, madNbad said:

Huss, is there a space between the grip and the body? KEH had a 14405 for ninety bucks and I thought I would give it a try. My problem with other grips was I couldn't use the self timer on the M4 because the grip was in the way. The only one I had that would accommodate using the timer was a really ugly 3D printed one that I gave away. I had a 14405 a long time ago for my first M6 but don't remember the fit.

I can confirm that the 14405 does not allow the use of the self timer on the M4.

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Having given up on grips after using the GPM and two or three 3D printed ones, I finally decided to give the 14405 a chance. I owned on years ago for my first M6 but it was sold along with the camera and had no memory of how it fit my hand. I started looking around on eBay and there were a lot of them for more money than I was willing to pay for one. On a chance, I tried KEH and there was one listed in “Bargain” condition for $85 usd plus shipping. Paid my money and took my chances. It arrived today and the only reason it was listed as “Bargain” was because there wasn’t in a box. 
All of the things I disliked about the other grips have been remedied with this one. The baseplate snaps in place and it no longer feels like the tab is being bent. The grip is just enough of a protrusion to give my right hand a solid grip while using my left in the “L” grip position. Overall, I am both pleased and surprised.

It’s a good partner for my M4-2. The A&A half case for the M4 will be here soon.

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I really liked the 14405 on my M4-2.  It was my go-to tool.

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7 hours ago, Al Brown said:

Unpopular opinion - the motor on a M6. Even the pinkie has a place.

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Unpopular for a reason.  Mine sits in a drawer waiting for me to get off my keester and sell it.

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9 hours ago, Huss said:

I really liked the 14405 on my M4-2.  It was my go-to tool.

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I bought this M4-2 from Huss. Can you spot the differences?

 

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On 8/18/2023 at 12:24 AM, TomB_tx said:

I never cared for a grip on a Leica. I was taught the palm of the left hand was the main camera support so the right hand was free to operate the film wind and shutter. The habits carried over to digital. Learned to carry in the left hand with strap wrapped around the wrist. Bring it up, focus with the left fingers while the right advances film to make ready to shoot.

Yep!

Of course this doesn't help the OP, sorry to say, but Yep! Couldn't possibly agree more.

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On 8/17/2023 at 4:24 PM, TomB_tx said:

I never cared for a grip on a Leica. I was taught the palm of the left hand was the main camera support so the right hand was free to operate the film wind and shutter. The habits carried over to digital. Learned to carry in the left hand with strap wrapped around the wrist. Bring it up, focus with the left fingers while the right advances film to make ready to shoot.

I mostly use the "L" grip but never liked wrapping the strap around my hand. I'm finding this little grip helps me push the camera into my palm as opposed to drawing it in with the strap.

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