lmr Posted November 13, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I updated to the 1.110 firmware this afternoon. I went out to shoot the same things I shot this morning, but realized that I am having backfocus issue after the update. Hmmm... I didn't think that the firmware should affects the focus. Bummer! Anyone encountered the same issue? Man... should have left this sensitive equipment alone, it was working GREAT. ... Are there any recourse? Lens: 50 Lux ASPH Firmware: 1.110 upgraded from 1.107 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted November 13, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 13, 2007 Impossible for it to be the firmware. It's human error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 13, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 13, 2007 Right, the focus is 100% manual. The light rays reach the sensor in a manner independent of the firmware. Try again It is of course possible that the camera coincidentally went out of calibration at the same time you updated the firmware. Did it get a bump of any kind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted November 13, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2007 Are there any recourse? Check e-bay for Digilux 2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmr Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted November 13, 2007 Nope... did not bump it, did not take the lens out or anything. Just took the base plate, and replaced the base plate like I have done many times. Now focus is off. Real bummer. Can't get anything focused like this morning. I do not think that the SW would caused it to record differently, but it may. Digilux 2?... Love that camera, but naaahh... sold it and bought a Digilux 3 along with 25 f1:4 lens. No Focus issue on with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 13, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2007 Unbelievable for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted November 13, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Post processing could have changed settings that are affecting apparent focus. Try re-installing the firmware and see if it helps. If not try going back to the prior version. If it clears up then you know it is firmware, if not then just a coincidence and the problem is mechnical (probably in the lens). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 13, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 13, 2007 Look, it is impossible that a firmware update changed the focus. Impossible. The focus on the M8 is 200% manual, if you don't believe 100%. There is some other explanation. Anyway, it needs tuning. Do you have a 2mm Allen key? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmr Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted November 13, 2007 I love this forum. Anyone has 1.107 firmware for me to download and instructions on how to install back level firmware? Wonder what are the risks? Hmmmm I may take you up on the 2mm Allen Key I am truly trying to find other cause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 13, 2007 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2007 You may not be able to find it. Life is complicated. Anyway, the firmware could not mess up the focus, because there is no connection. Send me your email address and I will send you firmware 1.whatever if I have it (I have all the official ones). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 13, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 13, 2007 Statistics: Each time lunch is served the church bell rings noon. Does lunch ring the bell? No. There cannot be a connection between the firmware and the focussing. The cause lies elsewhere or the observation has not been made before, despite the condition existing before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwfreund Posted November 14, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 14, 2007 If one looks for a problem, a problem is likely to be found. Causality is quite another matter. -bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted November 14, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 14, 2007 Jaapv and Carstew, I guess you have never seen a soft focus effect created in photoshop or any of the other image processing softwares. Mechanical focus can be spot on but a blurring effect can occur in processing, even selective blurring. It could be any of a number of causes, bad memory chip, faulty imaging chip software glitch, etc. The good news is it is easy to check. First, try a different lens, does it produce sharp images? If yes, the problem is not the firmware or the camera but rather lens specific. If no, try re-loading the software to make sure the installation did not get corrupted. Test again with different lenses. If it still has problems, try reverting back to a prior version. If that too fails, then a defect in the camera body is likely however, I would also try the 2mm allen wrench to see if it is a mechanical problem before sending the body back for repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 14, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 14, 2007 Robert didn't say that the image was out of focus, he said that the lens was back focussing. This just cannot happen because of a firmware update. Focussing is totally mechanical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted November 14, 2007 Share #15 Posted November 14, 2007 be carefull with the 2 mm allen wrench-it can mess up long distance focus. cheers, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 14, 2007 Share #16 Posted November 14, 2007 I guess you have never seen a soft focus effect created in photoshop or any of the other image processing softwares. Sure I have, what on earth are you talking about? Unless you are claiming that the firmware update messed up the mechanical linkage somehow, I have no idea why you posted this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted November 14, 2007 Share #17 Posted November 14, 2007 Well, my camera is currently at Solms so I haven't upgraded yet, but I've had a good laugh at all the wishful thinking going on and observing the power of the mind. So far, the FW has: lessened vignetting, less noise at high iso's, quieter shutter click, and now creates backfocusing! I'm hoping it changes the framelines for better composing as well. I think it comes down to a case of wanting too much just what the camera isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted November 14, 2007 Share #18 Posted November 14, 2007 Charles, I'm quite certain that the new firmware transports one's M8 to and from Solms also. At least I think so, as I thought I heard mine say "trinken sie mehr bier" as I pushed the shutter this morning. Kurt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 14, 2007 Share #19 Posted November 14, 2007 Jaapv and Carstew, I guess you have never seen a soft focus effect created in photoshop or any of the other image processing softwares. Well, Gaussian blur has been around for a long time. But what has that got to do with backfocussing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimP Posted November 14, 2007 Share #20 Posted November 14, 2007 Jaapv and Carstew, Mechanical focus can be spot on but a blurring effect can occur in processing, even selective blurring. It could be any of a number of causes, bad memory chip, faulty imaging chip software glitch, etc. Never heard of that,,, How can a memory chip cause blurring?!? If the bits go south you will most likely get a corrupt file or image. Ditto for the imaging chip... dead pixels. I, as well, cannot see how the FW will cause the above, especially since we are talking about the mechanical part of the system. If software driven, then I would suspect the forum would be a-buzz with discussions on this. FWIW, I have the new software loaded and my images are just as sharp as before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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