Ken Abrahams Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share #41 Posted July 3, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 18 hours ago, stuny said: Not from the hip but tilted to include the reflection. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ken Abrahams Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share #42 Posted July 3, 2023 SL2s with 35 F@ DG DN Contemporary Sigma @ f2- The AF Sigma lens is totally usable for shooting randomly from the hip. Up until now I have only used M Lenses and the zone focus system. The Sigma is small enough and quick enough to shoot in this mode. The only problem is that its not a Leica lens Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4806282'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 3, 2023 Share #43 Posted July 3, 2023 Barbara had gone in for her COVID vaccination while I awaited my turn. With my Q on my knee, I shot this of the young woman leaving the clinic Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4806569'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted July 4, 2023 Author Share #44 Posted July 4, 2023 Midland Train Station Series - M10M with 35 Summilux 1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4807224'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share #45 Posted July 5, 2023 The low angle works well for this image and the wide 21 SEM lens allows for vertical perspectives to be corrected. It really is a favourite lens and works extremely well with both SL2 and SL2S cameras. I tried using the 35 APO SL from the hip today however it just wont focus where I point it and its too big. I knew it but had to give it a go anyway. It looks like the M lenses will be around for a long time. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4807879'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share #46 Posted July 5, 2023 Same Sunglasses - however this preceded the above shot. I was walking past the girls and you can see my reflection in her glasses holding the shutter down. Then I turned around to see she had also turned around and bam! the shot two above eventuated. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4807882'>More sharing options...
Alberti Posted July 8, 2023 Share #47 Posted July 8, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Compo is just right Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4809791'>More sharing options...
Alberti Posted July 8, 2023 Share #48 Posted July 8, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4809793'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 8, 2023 Share #49 Posted July 8, 2023 In the Cocteau Chapel in Villefranche, France. From the hip, no photos allowed (I think so that they can sell postcards of the chapel. We bought a full set of postcards as well). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4809979'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share #50 Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 10:38 PM, stuny said: In the Cocteau Chapel in Villefranche, France. From the hip, no photos allowed (I think so that they can sell postcards of the chapel. We bought a full set of postcards as well). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yes, glad you got the images and understand the clandestine approach was necessary even though the subject matter has no real structural components that would do away with random hip shooting. Still, you have managed to frame the sections of wall art extremely well. Once you get a sense of how the camera shoots from the perspective of ones hip, judging and ball parking the framing is quite easy. best Ken 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike S Posted July 20, 2023 Share #51 Posted July 20, 2023 So, not entirely from the hip but zone focussed and snapshot, starting to break free from 30 years of formal composition ;)) The Rosetta Stone at the British Museum M4-P 35mm Summaron 3.5 Fomapan200 in Rodinal Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4818127'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted July 20, 2023 Share #52 Posted July 20, 2023 And here's one that failed (this is the best of about 5) The Matisse Chapel in Vence, France. The only saving grace is I'm not a fan of Matisse. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4818350'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share #53 Posted August 10, 2023 Party Time - shot from the hip as I walked past to achieve an authentic view point, as such. Framing this image for verticals in my opinion would negate its casual and random like appeal. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4832403'>More sharing options...
frame-it Posted August 10, 2023 Share #54 Posted August 10, 2023 SL + Leica 90mm M APO Summicron ASPH f2.0 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=4832457'>More sharing options...
war Posted August 10, 2023 Share #55 Posted August 10, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 12:30 PM, stuny said: And here's one that failed (this is the best of about 5) The Matisse Chapel in Vence, France. The only saving grace is I'm not a fan of Matisse. Not a failure in my opinion, gives a good impression of the space, tiles and stained glass. (I like Matisse) Too bad this photography prohibition is becoming more common. But then, have you ever been poked with a selfie stick! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelatino Posted August 17, 2023 Share #56 Posted August 17, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 4:38 PM, stuny said: In the Cocteau Chapel in Villefranche, France. From the hip, no photos allowed (I think so that they can sell postcards of the chapel. We bought a full set of postcards as well). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Jesus was there, and looked at you😇; Jesus doesn't sell postcards😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted September 21, 2023 Author Share #57 Posted September 21, 2023 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted October 30, 2024 Author Share #58 Posted October 30, 2024 Movement SL3 Summilux 28 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=5678781'>More sharing options...
RSH-Photo Posted December 5, 2024 Share #59 Posted December 5, 2024 Shooting from the hip. D-Lux 7. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=5718523'>More sharing options...
erl Posted December 6, 2024 Share #60 Posted December 6, 2024 I have to confess that I have an inbuilt aversion to 'undisciplined' and 'hip' type shots. That is not to say I don't practice them. I do, or have in the past. For an image grab my attention, it has to 'say' something. Anything, but give me a reason for looking at it. One picture is worth a thousand words could be one of the greatest untruths of the modern era. I see so many images, on this forum and other places, that quite frankly have near zero connection between the image and the given title or description. What I am saying is that sometimes the given description kills the image because there is no obvious link. If you give an image a description, make sure anyone who was not there can clearly see the connection. If you can't find an effective connection, it probably means your image is a failure. A bit of a rant, I know, but I am not apologetic. When I travelled a lot, mainly in third world countries, I was supremely conscious that many locals don't like being photographed. I developed a technique of shooting from all sorts of positions that feigned anything but what I was really shooting. I practised hard at home to perfect the style. Basically, I simple wanted to document my travels in as an authentic way as possible. The other advantage I exploited was speed. I always shot fast to be discreet, often feigning 'no shot', but in fact had banged of one or two fast ones. The one thing that stands out in all my shots is the disciplined composition. I do it naturally without thinking about it, mostly. I have a high count of successful (IMO) shots using this general approach. I also have untold losses that I mourn, but console myself that at least no one was offended. A prime rule of mine. I have scoured my files for evidence of hip or undiscipled pics to add in. A hard task, but I found one shot in Fes of the 'water boy'. I had stalked him over various days, but he did his best to evade. me. Finally, I got him, from the hip, but I only consider it works because of his customer, who has spotted what I am doing, drinking in the background. No caption needed, IMO. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/378486-undisciplined-framing-style-or-shooting-from-the-hip-images/?do=findComment&comment=5718641'>More sharing options...
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