Q3 does not lock focus with rear button 1 or 2 , after 1 shot AF-1 unlocks . The programable rear buttons do not work like Q2 0or Q2M !

[bsmith]

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After  setting Rear  Button 1 or 2 on Q3 to AF-L, only the first exposure remains locked !!!! This is different than the Zoom /Lock button feature on the Q2 and Q2M. The Q3 AF-L rear button feature  is basically completely useless !!!    Makes no common sense . A big downgrade in functionality .

[bsmith]

And after a million request and 8 years later, why can't we lock the annoying AF point?  Its now more of an issue with the larger 4 way selector button on Q3 . A basis function in $200 cameras of every other brand in the world since the beginning of AF.   

[bsmith]

And why can't we set fn 1 , fn 2 or the top wheel button to PLAY ??? a more useful and quicker playback button while holding the camera in a shooting position. 

[hedleyw]

It’s as if the software engineers go back to v1.0 of the previous camera rather than picking up from the features of the latest version. Why improve the functionality on the Q2 following customer feedback only to drop it on the Q3? 

[Nyarlanassar]

As 2024, still doesn't works! Unaccettable on a 6000$ camera, a basic function in entry level cameras!

[Carrot]

AF-L stayed locked on my Q2, take as many photos as you want and it stayed locked. Only recently got my Q3 and I agree it only stays locked for one shot, so that’s useless. I started with firmware 6, so don’t know if this was an issue from the start or a hidden v.6 gem. But why downgrade from Q2 functionality?

[Nyarlanassar]

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40 minutes ago, Carrot said:

AF-L stayed locked on my Q2, take as many photos as you want and it stayed locked. Only recently got my Q3 and I agree it only stays locked for one shot, so that’s useless. I started with firmware 6, so don’t know if this was an issue from the start or a hidden v.6 gem. But why downgrade from Q2 functionality?

Yes, AFAIK after a lot of complaints they solved the issue on the Q2 from firmware 5, but now it looks like they fall back to the same problem with the Q3. More, if you lock AE, you can't lock AF. And AF-lock has the same behavior. Totally useless. And in all cameras I have, it works flawlessly. It drives me crazy. 😤

[SrMi]

On 6/9/2023 at 10:19 PM, bsmith said:

After  setting Rear  Button 1 or 2 on Q3 to AF-L, only the first exposure remains locked !!!! This is different than the Zoom /Lock button feature on the Q2 and Q2M. The Q3 AF-L rear button feature  is basically completely useless !!!    Makes no common sense . A big downgrade in functionality .

It's works-as-intended, or at least as Leica wanted to implement it. It is not BBF. It is a common problem with all Leica cameras. SL cameras require switching to MF to use BBF, but that causes problems with cameras that use MF clutch.

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, Carrot said:

AF-L stayed locked on my Q2, take as many photos as you want and it stayed locked. Only recently got my Q3 and I agree it only stays locked for one shot, so that’s useless. I started with firmware 6, so don’t know if this was an issue from the start or a hidden v.6 gem. But why downgrade from Q2 functionality?

With Q2, the shutter release does not unlock focus, but changing aperture or exposure compensation with the rear dial unlocks focus. Q2's BBF/AF-L implementation is not relevantly better than what we have in Q3.

[Nyarlanassar]

17 minutes ago, SrMi said:

With Q2, the shutter release does not unlock focus, but changing aperture or exposure compensation with the rear dial unlocks focus. Q2's BBF/AF-L implementation is not relevantly better than what we have in Q3.

But at least they could keep AE locked, since as it is now on Q3 it's useless... 

[Photon42]

14 hours ago, SrMi said:

With Q2, the shutter release does not unlock focus, but changing aperture or exposure compensation with the rear dial unlocks focus. Q2's BBF/AF-L implementation is not relevantly better than what we have in Q3.

That Q2 behaviour also sounds half baked. Before I bought the Q3, I searched for a possibility to use back button focus and was surprised it is still not in. The Leica limitation to only allow it if the camera is set to manual focus is of course a little counterproductive with the Q. And there is no need for that limitation.

Having that said, I bought that thing anyways and I am embracing its functionality as it is. Turns out it works well enough for me. If I really need to lock focus or exposure, I do that manually (exposure and/or focus), which works well. And then I know at least it is on until I turn it off.

[Nyarlanassar]

26 minutes ago, Photon42 said:

That Q2 behaviour also sounds half baked. Before I bought the Q3, I searched for a possibility to use back button focus and was surprised it is still not in. The Leica limitation to only allow it if the camera is set to manual focus is of course a little counterproductive with the Q. And there is no need for that limitation.

Having that said, I bought that thing anyways and I am embracing its functionality as it is. Turns out it works well enough for me. If I really need to lock focus or exposure, I do that manually (exposure and/or focus), which works well. And then I know at least it is on until I turn it off.

Ok, but it is totally inexplicable... You buy a $6000 camera with top notch processor, and... you have to use it in manual mode to get a basic (in almost all other cameras) functionality... 😭

[Pelu2010]

Hey, 

if you write to the Leica support and DEV team they can't ignore it if enough people complain: 

app-feature@leica-camera.com

And even better if you give them instructions on how to implement it. 

I would also love to have a BBF. And I requested it. 

And I do it over and over again. And I am sure that we will get, if we all keep on senden enough emails. 

Also If you can't write emails, call or tell your salesperson. 

We won´t get it until enough people complain. 

And the storyline with the expensive camera won't work. It needs more and detailed storyline to function. 😉 

cheers Peter 

[Photon42]

5 hours ago, Nyarlanassar said:

Ok, but it is totally inexplicable... You buy a $6000 camera with top notch processor, and... you have to use it in manual mode to get a basic (in almost all other cameras) functionality... 😭

Seems like I knew what I am going to buy. Did you?

[Nyarlanassar]

20 hours ago, Pelu2010 said:

Hey, 

if you write to the Leica support and DEV team they can't ignore it if enough people complain: 

app-feature@leica-camera.com

And even better if you give them instructions on how to implement it. 

I would also love to have a BBF. And I requested it. 

And I do it over and over again. And I am sure that we will get, if we all keep on senden enough emails. 

Also If you can't write emails, call or tell your salesperson. 

We won´t get it until enough people complain. 

And the storyline with the expensive camera won't work. It needs more and detailed storyline to function. 😉 

cheers Peter 

You are right about everything, and you can be sure that I will do as you say. The camera is overall a masterpiece, and need just a few software tuning to become just perfect.

Thank you, and have good light!

[Nyarlanassar]

18 hours ago, Photon42 said:

Seems like I knew what I am going to buy. Did you?

Your comment is not very polite and, frankly, of little use.

[jaapv]

Well, it is advisable to do a little due diligence before buying a camera at this price point. 

[Nyarlanassar]

1 minute ago, jaapv said:

Well, it is advisable to do a little due diligence before buying a camera at this price point. 

Lots of diligence, but in all fields that matter the most (and for Q3 are a zillion-billion, considered the price point). On this topic, once verified that:

- AF lock and AE lock commands exist and are separed

- They can be assigned to different buttons

- In Q2 they work as expected

what more diligence should you apply?

Who can imagine that Q3 reverted to a version of little-to-no-use, that no other producer implement?

Hope next firmware release take this issue in account and offer at least Q2 implementation.

[jaapv]

But it is so easily solved. Set exposure to manual. Hardly an issue. That has the advantage that you can set exposure to spot and the focus to face recognition, for instance. 

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[jaapv]

23 hours ago, Pelu2010 said:

Hey, 

if you write to the Leica support and DEV team they can't ignore it if enough people complain: 

app-feature@leica-camera.com

And even better if you give them instructions on how to implement it. 

I would also love to have a BBF. And I requested it. 

And I do it over and over again. And I am sure that we will get, if we all keep on senden enough emails. 

Also If you can't write emails, call or tell your salesperson. 

We won´t get it until enough people complain. 

And the storyline with the expensive camera won't work. It needs more and detailed storyline to function. 😉 

cheers Peter 

I would not be too certain. When Leica takes a design decision they are rarely swayed.