pgh Posted May 21, 2023 Share #21 Posted May 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Whatever the root issue is (card, lens code setting) - there is a significant remaining problem with the m11 architecture in too many instances. If a card or lens setting is liable to freeze the camera then the option shouldn’t be available in the menus and should be explicitly stipulated. The onus should not be on owners spending this much cash to trouble shoot and spend hours in forums trying to fix arcane issues. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeicaR10 Posted May 21, 2023 Share #22 Posted May 21, 2023 Duesentrieb, First, welcome to the forum where you will find a good many photographers who will share their sage advice to include myself. Second, the freezes of various digital models have been discused in the forum on various threads over the many years. My clients to my workshops using the various M cameras would have occasional freezes and I found it was caused by serveral reasons; i.e. corrupted SD cards, cheap counterfeit SD cards, SD cards that were not formatted correctly, not using the latest firmware, operator error and rarely and I mean rarely would the camera be "defective" requiring a trip to Customer Care. But it did happen but rarely. Third, I suggest you take a look at post #14 and consider it. The latest M11-M firmware is 1.6.1. It resolves most of the "bugs" with the latest Monochrom model. Since using a high quality SD card, using SD Card Formatter (free software download), formatting the SD card with it, then format in camera, before uploading the firmware update, resolved the freeze issue. I also use the SD Card Formatter after every 10 shoots and reformat the SD card in camera before a daily shoot. I always use the same SD card too. I have done this since my M240, M10, M10-R and all Monchrom models and never a freeze for any digital M, S or SL cameras. You might try the procedure as have many in the forum. It works for them and me. Hope this helps. r/ Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaticB Posted May 21, 2023 Share #23 Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) Got mine yesterday. Beautiful, files are excellent, post processing in PS really effective - I already ordered 4 prints at White Wall (I'm not as effective preparing files for web though, as can be seen in my posts 🥴). I've also had two freezes already and right now I'm formating SD carts with SD Card Formatter... I'm wondering if problem with SD cards also resulted in inability of connecting camera via USB? It works on the begining, but then connection was broken (Adobe Bridge had been unable to establish connection) and since then camera also couldn't charge via USB. PS: Right now, after formating SD cards with SD Card Formatter, Adobe Bridge again recognize M11 Monochrom and transfer files succesfully. Because battery is now also fully charged, I can't say if charging process is re-established also. We'll see. I can live with that, but if additional problems evolve, I'll send it to the service. 🙂 Edited May 21, 2023 by MaticB Want to add few more thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwilms Posted June 11, 2023 Share #24 Posted June 11, 2023 No freezing or any other issues on my M11M. I am using the latest firmware, uncoded lenses (Voigtländer), SD cards from Kingston and Lexar (V90 and V60). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof Posted June 25, 2023 Share #25 Posted June 25, 2023 I had few freezes on M11 and Indeed I tried using SD Card Formatter. After full format, it reported few bad bites ( brand new 128GB Hoodman card) After format, they should now be "marked" as bad and skipped. So for over a month now, no freezes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaR10 Posted June 25, 2023 Share #26 Posted June 25, 2023 MaticB, I sent you a PM. r/ Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 25, 2023 Share #27 Posted June 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 5 hours ago, Krzysztof said: [...] I tried using SD Card Formatter. After full format, it reported few bad bites ( brand new 128GB Hoodman card) After format, they should now be "marked" as bad and skipped [...] Do you mean this effect of "marking" and skipping is produced by SD Card Formatter? If so, would such effect be kept after in-camera formatting? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof Posted June 25, 2023 Share #28 Posted June 25, 2023 Yes, I think that's what that software dose, maps bad sectors. And it takes like 20min to format the card. In camera we have just a quick format, so I think that data is preserved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 26, 2023 Share #29 Posted June 26, 2023 22 hours ago, Krzysztof said: Yes, I think that's what that software dose, maps bad sectors. And it takes like 20min to format the card. In camera we have just a quick format, so I think that data is preserved. 20min is for "Overwrite format" i guess. Do you mean SD Card Formatter doesn't map bad sectors when "Quick format" is the formatting option?. Just curious as i have never used "Overwrite format" in 10+ years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof Posted June 26, 2023 Share #30 Posted June 26, 2023 Yes, quick format for the most part is just “your card is empty” information saved. That’s why you can still recover data. But when you do overwrite then it writes data to every sector, and thats why it can map unwritable sectors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 26, 2023 Share #31 Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Krzysztof said: Yes, quick format for the most part is just “your card is empty” information saved. [...] Bit more than that i suspect. I could not recover deleted files on SD cards formatted by Sony cameras. The issue was fixed by SD Card Formatter under quick format only. Same for slow startup times fixed under quick format on my M240. Great software anyway. Makes parts of my tips on the M11. Edited June 26, 2023 by lct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzysztof Posted June 26, 2023 Share #32 Posted June 26, 2023 Well if we want to get more technical, it does a little bit more, but not much. You can even pull some info from they website. What is the difference between Quick and Overwrite format methods? Quick format deletes all the file/directory entries by initializing file system parameters of the card, but it does not delete the data written in files. Overwrite format deletes file/directory entries by initializing file system parameters of the card (same as with Quick format) and erases all data by overwriting the user data area completely. Note that the Overwrite format takes more time to complete than the Quick format method. And another piece of info: Quick format removes files from the SD / memory card but it doesn't scan for bad sectors. The option should only be enabled when the SD / memory card has been formatted previously and you're certain the card is not damaged So to sum it up, as a good practice is always good to o do one full overwrite format on a new card, to map bad sectors. Then just use quick format. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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