Firmware Update 5.0

[fumigatus]

Advertisement (gone after registration)

4 minutes ago, Blackadder978 said:

I am on Ventura 13.2.1 and it works fine. Are you on a different release?

Yes, Ventura 13.3.1. I just updated a few days ago. I don't understand this, cause the screenshot from Apple-support I attached above, is from Nov. 22. 

[Blackadder978]

Have you tried a different card reaser, in case you have alternatives? And yes, this is confusing and rather annoying that it still hapens on some machines.

Edited April 18, 2023 by Blackadder978

[Perti L]

If you have a memory card reader for iPhone, you can download the firmware to your phone and move it to the memory card. Did not know this was even possible, but it did work👍🏼😊

[fumigatus]

Thank you both. I apologize for bothering you with this. Found out something very odd right now. When I erase the old (4.0) version from the SD memory card, then the new version (5.0) can be dragged or copied over. But when I then insert the card in my Q2, the old version (4.0) reappears. Even when I simply try to erase the old version, copy over the new, and just reinsert the card in my Mac, the old version reappears in the external drive. It seems like the old version refuses to be deleted, blocking for the new version. I even tried to completely empty my SanDisk 124 GB Extreme PRO memory card, eject it and reinsert it. The same happened.   

[Le Chef]

7 minutes ago, fumigatus said:

Thank you both. I apologize for bothering you with this. Found out something very odd right now. When I erase the old (4.0) version from the SD memory card, then the new version (5.0) can be dragged or copied over. But when I then insert the card in my Q2, the old version (4.0) reappears. Even when I simply try to erase the old version, copy over the new, and just reinsert the card in my Mac, the old version reappears in the external drive. It seems like the old version refuses to be deleted, blocking for the new version. I even tried to completely empty my SanDisk 124 GB Extreme PRO memory card, eject it and reinsert it. The same happened.   

Reformat the card after deleting 4.0, and before you download 5.0

[Blackadder978]

14 minutes ago, Le Chef said:

Reformat the card after deleting 4.0, and before you download 5.0

Agree, but do it in the camera

[luetz]

Advertisement (gone after registration)

Imac M1 on Ventura 13.3.1.  Format your SD card in Camera.  Download firmware 5.0 to Finder.  Insert SD card to reader and drag file to SD card in Finder.  Everything worked as expected after following the camera menu to start update.  Note:  My camera battery was at 3 bars and message would not allow download until I replaced battery with a fully charged battery.  Replaced battery with a charged backup and firmware 5.0 is in place.

[howard_cummer]

I am visiting in Calgary Canada. I downloaded the update for my Q2 without difficulty on my MacBook Pro with the Monterey O/S except for the time zone setting.

To set the correct time I had to set the time zone to +2 (Athens, Helsinki) instead of  -7 (Denver, Phoenix) in order to get correct Calgary time.

When I downloaded the Q2M update it again installed okay but the time zone time setter had to be set to +3 (Moscow, Nairobi) to get Calgary time.

Both cameras seem to be working fine but the time zone settings are weird. Should I try to install the software again? Anyone else have the same problem?

[Le Chef]

Just adjust the clock - it’s easy to do.

[Trankster]

Anyone need help restoring the file numbering after the upgrade?  

I upgraded to the latest Q2 firmware 5.0 and searched for past discussions of how to restore the file numbering to where I left off prior to the update.  I thought it might be helpful to summarize the steps (plagiarized from a 2020 post by another member) in case others are newer to the Q2 or don’t recall the solution. 

After updating the firmware in my Q2, the file number restarts at L1000001.  This seems to be an idiosyncrasy of the Q2. 

Renaming the folder to the latest (in my case Leica106) and copying the latest file into it did not work for me now or in prior updates.  The solution takes a bit of time, but here it is.

Start with a formatted card and shoot a photo, eject the SD card.  The photo will be stored in a folder Leica100.  Rename the file in your computer to L1009999.DNG. Reinsert the SD card in the camera and take a shot.  The folder Leica101 will be created with a file starting with L1010001.  Eject the SD card and rename the file to L1019999 and put it into the Q2 and take another shot.  Repeat these steps with the newly created folders until the folder created is the last folder you had prior to the update.  Take a shot and then rename the file to 1 beyond your last one and you should be good to go.   

Edited April 19, 2023 by Trankster

[Aram Langhans]

Downloaded and updated my Q2.  Using a PC to copy to SD.  No incidents.  Worked perfectly.

Tried the face/eye detection and I did not see any improvement.  It didn't work well with 4.0 and it still does not work well with 5.0.  Wish Leica would not tout a feature that is not ready for prime time.  Hope Q3 will have more horsepower so this feature will actually work dependably.  Fortunately I don't need it much and when I do I will use my Z7ii which works perfectly with this feature.

[Lutzi]

Works just fine 👍

[T25UFO]

14 hours ago, fumigatus said:

Yes, Ventura 13.3.1. I just updated a few days ago. I don't understand this, cause the screenshot from Apple-support I attached above, is from Nov. 22. 

Strange.  I am also on Ventura 13.3.1 (updated yesterday) and the Q2M firmware download works fine.

[andrewj]

4 hours ago, Aram Langhans said:

Downloaded and updated my Q2.  Using a PC to copy to SD.  No incidents.  Worked perfectly.

Tried the face/eye detection and I did not see any improvement.  It didn't work well with 4.0 and it still does not work well with 5.0.  Wish Leica would not tout a feature that is not ready for prime time.  Hope Q3 will have more horsepower so this feature will actually work dependably.  Fortunately I don't need it much and when I do I will use my Z7ii which works perfectly with this feature.

That's helpful to now.  Improvement in face detection would be the main reason for updating the firmware, though wonder if others have had a better experience with face detection?

[sir_ian]

4 hours ago, Aram Langhans said:

Tried the face/eye detection and I did not see any improvement.  It didn't work well with 4.0 and it still does not work well with 5.0.  

that's weird, i saw DIRECT improvements.if you're comparing it to the Canon/sony / Nikon eye focus then, of course, you'd feel that way..it is NOWHERE NEAR that level of good. it must be noted it ONLY works at close distances, once the person stepped a little too far away it was done... but MY q2 locked right onto the eyes of the human, then I tried it with a photo hanging on the wall .. locked right on, and held focus while I moved .. 

 

for what its worth I don't use that focus feature in my real-world work but I can say firmly that I personally think it was. a huge improvement over the "tracking" feature it previously had. 

[LocalHero1953]

1 hour ago, sir_ian said:

that's weird, i saw DIRECT improvements.if you're comparing it to the Canon/sony / Nikon eye focus then, of course, you'd feel that way..it is NOWHERE NEAR that level of good. it must be noted it ONLY works at close distances, once the person stepped a little too far away it was done... but MY q2 locked right onto the eyes of the human, then I tried it with a photo hanging on the wall .. locked right on, and held focus while I moved .. 

 

for what its worth I don't use that focus feature in my real-world work but I can say firmly that I personally think it was. a huge improvement over the "tracking" feature it previously had. 

Unfortunately your description applies to my experience with v4.0: face detection works only if someone is close to the camera and looking at it. I hope it is better than that. (I have not yet tried v5.0 in real life)

[sir_ian]

12 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Unfortunately your description applies to my experience with v4.0: face detection works only if someone is close to the camera and looking at it. I hope it is better than that. (I have not yet tried v5.0 in real life)

yeah its a few steps up from that Paul ... 

but it oddly does a way better job with the eyes it seems to grab/lock on to them where as the "face detection" was jittery and kinda just the focus box moving all over the place... it was a tad bit faster and a lil more snappy with the autofocus, times like this make me wish i was a street photog so i could test it out with better results and compare with other things i shot.. 

[Aram Langhans]

2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Unfortunately your description applies to my experience with v4.0: face detection works only if someone is close to the camera and looking at it. I hope it is better than that. (I have not yet tried v5.0 in real life)

As I stated above, I see no difference between 4 and 5.  You do have to be quite close and the light has to be pretty bright for it to even find a face.  I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, but that has been my experience and I see no change with version 5.  I tried locking on to some photos up close and it did not find anything.  My wife is adverse to me pointing a camera at her but did it anyway.  Nope.  No lock. Maybe Leica firmware recognizes her reluctance and to preserve my marriage it chooses not to work.  If that is the case, thank you, Leica.  My marriage of 49 years is worth more than face detect.

 

[Pompo Bresciani]

On 4/18/2023 at 6:50 AM, rfunnell said:

Have downloaded the 'Q2___500.lfu" file that is 118MB  and when attempting to do the update on my Q2 M. I get a message "no firmware on SD card found " 

Any idea what I'm doing wrong ?

 

I have the same error on my Q2M! I wonder if it doesn't work for Q2M??

[Advertisement]

Hallo,

Look here: Leica Q

[sir_ian]

1 hour ago, Aram Langhans said:

As I stated above, I see no difference between 4 and 5.  You do have to be quite close and the light has to be pretty bright for it to even find a face.  I am not sure if I am doing something wrong, but that has been my experience and I see no change with version 5.  I tried locking on to some photos up close and it did not find anything.  My wife is adverse to me pointing a camera at her but did it anyway.  Nope.  No lock. Maybe Leica firmware recognizes her reluctance and to preserve my marriage it chooses not to work.  If that is the case, thank you, Leica.  My marriage of 49 years is worth more than face detect.

 

wow sorry to hear that its not functioning properly for you. i have now tested it out in the wild and its fairly good but like you just said above the light has to be decent, we don't have many shadows today in NYC but I await to see how it performs in the shadows with the eyes.  as for the photos mine locked on fairly quick on the 1st attempt with testing it on some of my photos hanging in my house.  

at the end of the day the eye focus thingy isn't for everyone you clearly use your camera in a way that works for you and I doubt this would change the way you use your device..