ArtZ Posted November 7, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Running on my M8s now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 Hi ArtZ, Take a look here Firmware 1.110 available on www.leica-camera.de. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
guidomo Posted November 7, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 7, 2007 Only showing up on the German site at the moment, it seems: Leica Camera AG - Downloads Direct link: http://www.leica-camera.de/assets/file/download.php?filename=file_3249.zip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted November 7, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 7, 2007 The reduction of lag between pre-flash and main flash I find a good improvement. Have to check out how much it is improved. Cheers, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 7, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 7, 2007 The firmware header confirms there are now 3 versions of the CCD Board and the SAME firmware is loaded, irrespective of the hardware version. So all the agonising over whether cameras with a board change are "better" was likely for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 7, 2007 Share #5 Posted November 7, 2007 ...and the threats of lawsuits, letters to Leica, and so on. Lordy lord. I just shot three photos before and after with ISO 640, 1250 and 2500, and I could see no difference at all, looking very carefully at up to 200%. Too bad, but perhaps the M8 owner who saw a large difference could discuss in which situations this was the case? I shot a dark corner of my living room in the morning of a very grey day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 7, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 7, 2007 ...and the threats of lawsuits, letters to Leica, and so on. Lordy lord. I just shot three photos before and after with ISO 640, 1250 and 2500, and I could see no difference at all, looking very carefully at up to 200%. Too bad, but perhaps the M8 owner who saw a large difference could discuss in which situations this was the case? I shot a dark corner of my living room in the morning of a very grey day. Did a similar test my self this morning and didn't notice any improvement, Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnkuo Posted November 7, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just loaded and took a few snaps. Is it me or does the shutter sound more crisp now? I remember one of the earlier updates made the shutter sound longer, but now maybe it's back to the way it was before? Anyway if that's the case it's an improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted November 7, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 7, 2007 after installation would i be needing the 2mm hex again:eek: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted November 7, 2007 Share #9 Posted November 7, 2007 after installation would i be needing the 2mm hex again:eek: Fahim, that's funny! Fortunately I don't think any change in firmware is going to affect the mechanical rangefinder alignment. I think you're safe for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted November 7, 2007 Share #10 Posted November 7, 2007 ...and the threats of lawsuits, letters to Leica, and so on. Lordy lord. I just shot three photos before and after with ISO 640, 1250 and 2500, and I could see no difference at all, looking very carefully at up to 200%. Too bad, but perhaps the M8 owner who saw a large difference could discuss in which situations this was the case? I shot a dark corner of my living room in the morning of a very grey day. A Leica representative mentioned this noise improvement to him? It is difficult to make internal software reductions of noise for RAW files when the hardware can't be modified. Some kind of electronic noise reduction (made in the sensor, or outside of it) is the way many manufacturers follow. The noise for ISO 640 and above is one of my main concerns for the M8. We increase the sensitivity when the light is scarce, but ISO 640 in low light conditions is too noisy for my taste (chroma noise, luminance noise, loss of detail, deterioration of color, loss of dynamic range, loss of tonal variation, etc.). Noise handling is one of the areas in which Leica must improve for future cameras (R10, M8-2, etc.). Automatic white balance is another problem, but I don't care too much because I shot DNG all the time. Two sensors (one internal and another one external) is the best solution. I suppose Leica will try to develop a hybrid external color and light intensity sensor just where the second sensor is now. It is very difficult to get accurate AWB measures with only an internal sensor. The noise of the electric engine that cocks the shutter is the third big problem. I find the M8 too noisy. People react to this noise. I would like a design similar to that of the R-D1, with a wind lever. It would be possible to include it just as an option for future models? To sum-up, I don't think substantial improvement in those key areas are possible by means of firmware changes. The next M digital camera will be better, but the actual M8 is just as it is (very similar to the DMR, but two years later). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted November 7, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 7, 2007 Kent, what a relief to hear you say that! Guess I can celebrate the release then? ( shhhhh...what does it do? ) Fahim, that's funny! Fortunately I don't think any change in firmware is going to affect the mechanical rangefinder alignment. I think you're safe for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 7, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 7, 2007 Nothing changed to me, still AutoFocus is not working! I guess I have to send my M8 to Solms..... maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwfreund Posted November 7, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 7, 2007 One big step for Solms, One tiny step for M8 camera users Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted November 7, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 7, 2007 Automatic white balance is another problem, but I don't care too much because I shot DNG all the time. Two sensors (one internal and another one external) is the best solution. I suppose Leica will try to develop a hybrid external color and light intensity sensor just where the second sensor is now. It is very difficult to get accurate AWB measures with only an internal sensor. you might think so, but nikon no longer appear to as the D3 doesnt have the extra sensor of the D2 series. The problem with the M8 AWB isnt just its absolute accuracy, its the lack of accuracy compared to any number of other digital cameras which do better. The answer as you rightly say is to shoot raw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted November 7, 2007 Share #15 Posted November 7, 2007 you have misread the instructions. the upgrade should be downloaded to the lenses for autofocus to work correctly. if it doesn't you need to send the lenses to solms... what a pain:mad: Nothing changed to me,still AutoFocus is not working! I guess I have to send my M8 to Solms..... maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted November 7, 2007 Share #16 Posted November 7, 2007 I just shot three photos before and after ... and I could see no difference at all Same for me. My pictures are not even better. Why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted November 7, 2007 Share #17 Posted November 7, 2007 It's hit the US web site too now. I got the email a couple of hours ago. Still no mirror lock up function either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted November 7, 2007 Share #18 Posted November 7, 2007 As in the last update I don't plan on taking advantage of this one either. I have none of the problems addressed. For me, it's more of a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted November 7, 2007 Share #19 Posted November 7, 2007 Detects Summarits now. Not that this is important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayerische Posted November 7, 2007 Share #20 Posted November 7, 2007 I updated in a flash, since today I'm going to have a M8 VS 5D day with my cousin , just for the fun of it. Sadly no difference in noise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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