Photoshop

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Have you found any photoshop instructors who focus primarily on images coming from a monochrome camera?  What I am finding is that most start with color images nad convert to B&W (various methods).  Just curious as to various workflows.

[jaapv]

The very first that comes up in Google: he uses a hybrid Lightroom Photoshop workflow.

 

 

[jaapv]

There is not much difference between editing converted and Monochrom files.  One thing to remember: Don't touch the clarity slider; it creates haloes. Set your black and white point early in the process. The Dehaze slider is helpful. I mostly lift the midtones in Curves. For the rest it is mostly a matter of taste and intent. Note that ACR converts to Greyscale by default. Change that to RGB

[250swb]

It's probably also worth installing a plugin to Photoshop such as the Nik Suite with Silver Efex as this gives you some processing pre-sets and also B&W film pre-sets which you can use as starting points with your images. As @jaapv says do all your B&W work in Adobe RGB and save as TIFF files. 

[jaapv]

You can change the default conversion setting in ACR by clicking on the blue text (link) under the image. An advantage of working in RGB is that you can do toning. Some plugins require RGB as well. Silver Efex is both a useful learning tool and starting point. I must confess to abandoning it years ago as I found it too aggressive. YMMV

[marchyman]

9 hours ago, jaapv said:

he uses a hybrid Lightroom Photoshop workflow.

He does for that particular image.  He has other videos editing images from his monochrome camera without going into Photoshop.

 

[jaapv]

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The OP asked about a Photoshop-based workflow. 

[marchyman]

So he did.  Never mind  😅

[250swb]

38 minutes ago, marchyman said:

So he did.  Never mind  😅

It does make a difference despite laughing. Lightroom is still catching up with what can be done in Photoshop even if only a tiny fraction of the things Photoshop can do are used day-to-day or even explored in a lifetime. And if like me and many more people the OP doesn't like Lightroom it's a moot point trying to stuff it down their throat just because it 'seems' superficially similar. Lightroom didn't start as a Photoshop-Lite, it started as an entirely different concept made for the needs of entirely different photographers. It has since evolved to become more inclusive but it's abilities and management are a world away from Photoshop which has a deeper connection to a darkroom crossover past.

Edited March 16, 2023 by 250swb

[marchyman]

19 hours ago, 250swb said:

It does make a difference despite laughing.

Oh, I agree.  My laughing was at my error of suggesting a Lightroom only solution when the initial post explicitly mentioned Photoshop.

[albert]

Nik’s Siver Efex Pro 5 is where my Q2 Monochrom files go to dance. 

[Jeff S]

On 6/29/2023 at 10:33 AM, albert said:

Nik’s Siver Efex Pro 5 is where my Q2 Monochrom files go to dance. 

ImagePrint is where mine sing… on paper where they belong. 😉

Jeff

[irenedp]

On 3/16/2023 at 10:47 PM, 250swb said:

It does make a difference despite laughing. Lightroom is still catching up with what can be done in Photoshop even if only a tiny fraction of the things Photoshop can do are used day-to-day or even explored in a lifetime. And if like me and many more people the OP doesn't like Lightroom it's a moot point trying to stuff it down their throat just because it 'seems' superficially similar. Lightroom didn't start as a Photoshop-Lite, it started as an entirely different concept made for the needs of entirely different photographers. It has since evolved to become more inclusive but it's abilities and management are a world away from Photoshop which has a deeper connection to a darkroom crossover past.

Photoshop is the closest thing I know to a digital darkroom. It requires serious dedication but it gives back in kind. For me, Lightroom is only a catalogue and a very basic starting point. 

Edited July 9, 2023 by irenedp
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