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1 hour ago, fotografr said:

I agree completely. I have a friend who keeps trying to sell me on the new Sony cameras which essentially turn photography into a point & shoot process. Twenty frames per second, autofocus that just about can't miss, super high res. For me, it's a lot more satisfying to have to put some effort into getting a good image and to be in total control of the process.

I also know someone who has one of those Sony cameras. It seems solid and well built. But there are so many wheels, buttons, functions, menus, focus options, he reckons he spends more time fiddling with it than taking pictures. It can do amazing things, but I'm not sure that having all those options necessarily makes for better pictures.

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6 hours ago, colint544 said:

I also know someone who has one of those Sony cameras. It seems solid and well built. But there are so many wheels, buttons, functions, menus, focus options, he reckons he spends more time fiddling with it than taking pictures. It can do amazing things, but I'm not sure that having all those options necessarily makes for better pictures.

I've seen a lot of Sony wildlife photos posted on the Fred Miranda forum. There's something about them that turns me off. They are SO sharp, SO smooth, SO detailed that they actually lose their appeal as photographs. They actually surpass reality in a way. I get a much stronger emotional response from looking at b&w film images from the 30s, 40s and 50s than those from the new Sonys.

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10 hours ago, fotografr said:

I've seen a lot of Sony wildlife photos posted on the Fred Miranda forum. There's something about them that turns me off. They are SO sharp, SO smooth, SO detailed that they actually lose their appeal as photographs. They actually surpass reality in a way. I get a much stronger emotional response from looking at b&w film images from the 30s, 40s and 50s than those from the new Sonys.

I agree about the unpleasant hyper-real nature (and landscape) shots, but much of that effect is attributable to a heavy hand on the Clarity or Structure slider in post-processing. Can’t blame the camera or lens for most of it. 

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23 hours ago, fotografr said:

I've seen a lot of Sony wildlife photos posted on the Fred Miranda forum. There's something about them that turns me off. They are SO sharp, SO smooth, SO detailed that they actually lose their appeal as photographs. They actually surpass reality in a way. I get a much stronger emotional response from looking at b&w film images from the 30s, 40s and 50s than those from the new Sonys.

I have a friend with a high res Sony whose philosophy is just snap a wide angle shot and crop later.  I was with him yesterday and he would just raise the camera up in the general direction of interest and click off several exposures, not even looking at the LCD on the back, much less the EVF.  That's not for me.

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17 hours ago, robgo2 said:

I agree about the unpleasant hyper-real nature (and landscape) shots, but much of that effect is attributable to a heavy hand on the Clarity or Structure slider in post-processing. Can’t blame the camera or lens for most of it. 

Mostly what bothers me about them is that they are completely noise free (translate grain free) and the result is an image with no texture or depth. I think that's camera, not processing.

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My day doesn't feel right unless I've shot at least one "keeper" image. I guess some would call that an obsession. Last night we went out to see a play and my wife asked why I was bringing my camera. This is the staircase leading down to the lower level where the playhouse is located. 

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On 9/25/2019 at 4:41 PM, fotografr said:

Mostly what bothers me about them is that they are completely noise free (translate grain free) and the result is an image with no texture or depth. I think that's camera, not processing.

The question of grain/noise is frequently a matter of personal taste. Film photographers tend to regard grain as integral to an image, while digital photographers tend to regard it as an unwanted and unnatural intrusion. Clearly, removing all noise from a noisy file can produce an excessively smooth, plasticy look. But noise reduction done well can enhance many images, IMO. 

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17 hours ago, robgo2 said:

The question of grain/noise is frequently a matter of personal taste. Film photographers tend to regard grain as integral to an image, while digital photographers tend to regard it as an unwanted and unnatural intrusion. Clearly, removing all noise from a noisy file can produce an excessively smooth, plasticy look. But noise reduction done well can enhance many images, IMO. 

Agreed, although many of the newer cameras have some fairly heavy noise reduction built into the processor, taking much of that choice out of the photographer's hands.

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Brent I checked out your website (again) and really impressed at your lifetime of images, some of which I recognize from the Forum.  Really nice body of work.  I especially like your collection, No Direction Known.  With all those years of using film I can see the appeal of the MM for you.  It's a great camera and I think will probably rise as one of the few iconic digital cameras in the future.

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vor 3 Minuten schrieb colint544:

Kelvingrove skateboard park - wee James tackling one of the bowls. Glasgow, Scotland 

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I was reprimanded for posting in the wrong forum, but it's a nice photo of Jasper, so now in the right forum!  Monochrom 1 with 75mm APO.

 

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5 minutes ago, T25UFO said:

I was reprimanded for posting in the wrong forum, but it's a nice photo of Jasper, so now in the right forum!  Monochrom 1 with 75mm APO.

 

Very nice, and you are definitely in the right place now.

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Then and Now. January 2019 and September 2019

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