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[farnz]

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Was ISO 160 film around when HCB was shooting?

Pete.

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[jdlaing]

3 hours ago, farnz said:

Was ISO 160 film around when HCB was shooting?

Pete.

I think asa 160 was.

[adan]

On 9/11/2024 at 2:19 PM, farnz said:

Was ISO 160 film around when HCB was shooting?

Pete.

Hmmm - Ilford introduced HP film (Hypersensitive Panchromatic, precursor of HP2/3/4/5/5+)) at an ISO equivalent of 160 in 1931.

Henri Cartier-Bresson began photographing in  - 1931.

What was the question again? 😁

Edited September 13, 2024 by adan

[farnz]

1 hour ago, adan said:

What was the question again?

I was trying to get my head around Quarterpounder's statement that he'll be setting his LCD-less M8 to HCB's favourite ISO setting and leaving it there.  The M8's ISO settings are 160, 320, 640, and 1250 and I wondered whether ASA 320, 640, or 1250 film would have been available when HCB did his 'memorable work'.  I thought that HCB normally used ASA 100 film but I can't recall why I think/thought that.

No more than the ramblings of an old man's mind really.  I'm a hundred and twenty two, you know.

Pete.

[jdlaing]

8 minutes ago, farnz said:

I was trying to get my head around Quarterpounder's statement that he'll be setting his LCD-less M8 to HCB's favourite ISO setting and leaving it there.  The M8's ISO settings are 160, 320, 640, and 1250 and I wondered whether ASA 320, 640, or 1250 film would have been available when HCB did his 'memorable work'.  I thought that HCB normally used ASA 100 film but I can't recall why I think/thought that.

No more than the ramblings of an old man's mind really.  I'm a hundred and twenty two, you know.

Pete.

You look damn good for 122.

[farnz]

4 minutes ago, jdlaing said:

You look damn good for 122.

Thang you ver' merch, JD! 

[adan]

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1 hour ago, farnz said:

The M8's ISO settings are 160, 320, 640, and 1250 and I wondered whether ASA 320, 640, or 1250 film would have been available when HCB did his 'memorable work'.

It is a bit tricky to figure, because the "scales" changed over time - meter-makers (Weston, etc.) came up with their own "speeds", and even once the industry had mostly boiled things down to ASA (American Standards Association/ANSI) and DIN° (Deutsches Industrie Norm), the ASA/ANSI changed its standards around 1959 to allow for less "heavy/dense" negatives. Which was when HP(something) and Tri-X "jumped" from being ASA 200 to ASA 400 - without actually changing one iota.

Plus slightly different speeds were sometimes assigned to the same film name, depending on the film format (sheet, MF, 35mm).

- But TX as early "200" (later 400) was about 1940. Ilford made HP3, similar or a tad slower at that time (but 400 by HP4 in the mid 1960s).
- Kodak Royal-X Pan (ASA 1250, pushable to 5000, not released in 35mm - too grainy) was 1957-1980 or so,
- Kodak Recording FIlm 2475 (ASA 1250, 35mm and other sizes) - 1960s

Color 400 films arrived during my late-college years about 1977, when Kodak updated their chemistries as well.
- E6 Ektachrome 400 (replacing ASA 160 High Speed Ektachrome from the E3/4 era, which could be pushed to 400)
- C-41 Kodacolor 400

Pushable "variable" ISO 1000-3200 (maybe 6400 if one squinted hard 😉 ) B&W films for general use arrived with the 1980s T-grain/Delta-grain revolution (TMax 3200 and Ilford Delta 3200). Fuji had a normal-process Neopan 1600 B&W, from the 1980s.

I think I shot my first 35mm Kodak PMZ 1000 color neg film, also T-grain based, about 1994/5. 🤬

Fujifilm had an ISO 1600 color neg film by about that time also.

[farnz]

2 hours ago, adan said:

Fujifilm had an ISO 1600 color neg film by about that time also.

"Natura" perhaps?

I have a couple of rolls of Fuji colour neg Natura, which has a box speed of 1600, in my refrigerator.  I'm astonished at the price it sells for currently.

Pete.

[adan]

17 hours ago, farnz said:

"Natura" perhaps?

Not "Natura" - I think it was plain Superia 1600, but could have been the even older "Super HG."

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226240636311?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=226240636311&targetid=2299003535955&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9028801&poi=&campaignid=21672900668&mkgroupid=175573326908&rlsatarget=pla-2299003535955&abcId=10012303&merchantid=5349774052&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAA-Cg_1zMky4BVgxadgjQUal0Sw2p1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy8SSzf_CiAMVPTStBh2r-y1NEAQYAiABEgKFLPD_BwE

Never underestimate the power of the marketing dept. to come up with different/new names for the same thing - especially across global marketing regions. 

[Graham (G4FUJ)]

Full of Google tracking info!

All you needed was the link up to but not including the "?" as below:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226240636311 

[farnz]

5 hours ago, Graham (G4FUJ) said:

Full of Google tracking info!

All you needed was the link up to but not including the "?" as below:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226240636311 

Hi Graham, thanks for the warning.   I've used DuckDuckGo* as my browser for many years so copying Andy's long link into it and opening it there kills all the insidious Google silent tracking.  (If I'd simply clicked the link I expect that the tracking would have occurred.)

*For those who might not be aware, the DuckDuckGo web browser made/makes its name by preventing tracking.

Pete. 🙂

[jdlaing]

12 hours ago, farnz said:

Hi Graham, thanks for the warning.   I've used DuckDuckGo* as my browser for many years so copying Andy's long link into it and opening it there kills all the insidious Google silent tracking.  (If I'd simply clicked the link I expect that the tracking would have occurred.)

*For those who might not be aware, the DuckDuckGo web browser made/makes its name by preventing tracking.

Pete. 🙂

Ditto.