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3 hours ago, Bronco McBeast said:

This will never show on a print or scan. It only shows when the emulsion side is scratched.

Except you are wrong, again.  Mine was exactly like that, and showed up on the final result.

But I get it, keep pretending it is not an issue.  It is funny how you are maybe the last person on this site who still refuses to acknowledge that this issue is real, even with all the evidence staring you in the face.  And Leica themselves saying it is a real issue.

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I ran another roll of film through my just returned M6.  Pulled it out, examined it. FIXED. They also fixed the ISO dial.  It now points to actual marked film speeds. I am just grateful

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18 minutes ago, TheEyesHaveIt said:

I just bought a new Leica MP from Tim Lei / Lisse Leica. What's the best way to check if it has this problem? First film camera for me.

Huss has posted about the best way to check. Take an unexposed, sacrificial roll of film, load the camera. Run the entire roll through, rewind it but leave enough of the leader so you can pull the film out of the cassette. Check the back side of the film, especially towards the end for scratches. Hope this helps.

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25 minutes ago, TheEyesHaveIt said:

I just bought a new Leica MP from Tim Lei / Lisse Leica. What's the best way to check if it has this problem? First film camera for me.

The best way to test for scratches, and cheapest, is DO NOT DEVELOP THE FILM!  Just run a roll of the cheapest film you can buy all the way through your camera, rewind, then remove and examine the film.  Undeveloped film is opaque and so really easy to see any scratches.  This also removes the lab as the possible source of scratches.

Important - make sure it is a 36 exp roll.  And check the entire length - mine only showed scratches on the last third of the roll.

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6 hours ago, Al Brown said:

That is NOT a guarantee.

True, but that’s when they supposedly started using a different batch of pressure plates.

In an email on February 13, leica acknowledges a “small bad batch” of pressure plates. It would be interesting if anyone who has a mid Feb production M-A, MP, M6 reissue that still has a defective pressure plate resulting in film scratches. Chances of it should be smaller until next year or 2 when they get sloppy again. Seems like it happens every 2 years or so (when you least expect it). 

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12 hours ago, 69xchange said:

Looking forward to your update in 11 months from now.

 

For the uneven framing, have you tried tightening the slack after loading the film?

I have been told it's 4 weeks for warranty jobs, we will see. I did not try to tightening the slack after loading the film, just did not cross my mind. My M6TTL, FM2 or OM2n have even gaps all the time.

Here is another example, it's darkroom print ( HP5+ in Rodinal printed on ILFORD RC paper ) .

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3 hours ago, Huss said:

The best way to test for scratches, and cheapest, is DO NOT DEVELOP THE FILM!  Just run a roll of the cheapest film you can buy all the way through your camera, rewind, then remove and examine the film.  Undeveloped film is opaque and so really easy to see any scratches.  This also removes the lab as the possible source of scratches.

Important - make sure it is a 36 exp roll.  And check the entire length - mine only showed scratches on the last third of the roll.

Thanks! I tried a couple of times and looks like my MP copy is clean.

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Has anyone opened a new film canister and removed the virgin film intact on its roll and loaded it into the camera to prove that it isn't the film canister's opening that is causing the scratches ? (I'm not defending the camera pressure plate here- just curious). 

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3 hours ago, jpattison said:

Has anyone opened a new film canister and removed the virgin film intact on its roll and loaded it into the camera to prove that it isn't the film canister's opening that is causing the scratches ? (I'm not defending the camera pressure plate here- just curious). 

John

I have pulled the film out first to check the film, then used it in the camera. And also checked with multiple rolls.  All showed scratches in the same place.

And of course Leica themselves have said the issue is defective pressure plates.

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1 hour ago, Esleepy said:

I picked up my MP last Friday after they replaced the pressure plate, scratch free now! Mine was from Jan 2023 and it took exactly one month for it to return back to me. Came back with a few more scratches and a chip showing brass now though 😅

Are you sure they sent your camera back?

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1 hour ago, Esleepy said:

I picked up my MP last Friday after they replaced the pressure plate, scratch free now! Mine was from Jan 2023 and it took exactly one month for it to return back to me. Came back with a few more scratches and a chip showing brass now though 😅

Apologies if I haven't followed your case closely enough, but who are 'they'?  New Jersey?  Wetzlar (probably not if your camera was returned in a month)?  Are you sure you didn't select the 'Factory Patina' option on the repair form? 😉

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1 hour ago, logan2z said:

Apologies if I haven't followed your case closely enough, but who are 'they'?  New Jersey?  Wetzlar (probably not if your camera was returned in a month)?  Are you sure you didn't select the 'Factory Patina' option on the repair form? 😉

I took my MP to the local Leica store and I was told me they'd ship it to NJ, so I'm going to assume the repair was done there. 

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