James Sch. Posted December 8, 2022 Share #1 Posted December 8, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Need help. A few days ago, I installed the new Leica 10R firmware, and then found that the firmware information in the camera information turned gray and could not be opened. Has anyone encountered a similar situation? How to solve it? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam Bonn Posted December 8, 2022 Share #2 Posted December 8, 2022 mine's the same, I think it's supposed to be like that. What would it do if we could open it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Sch. Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted December 8, 2022 Thank you for comment. Normally, it should be displayed in white instead of greyed out. How to continue to upgrade the firmware in the future? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siriusone59 Posted December 8, 2022 Share #4 Posted December 8, 2022 I just checked my 10r, I haven't installed either of the last two updates and its greyed out just like yours. I think it only changes when it finds a usable update on the memory card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted December 8, 2022 Share #5 Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, James Sch. said: How to continue to upgrade the firmware in the future? The upgrade menu is automatically active (not greyed out) when the camera detects the new firmware file in the card root directory. Otherwise it is greyed out to keep overly curious people away from tampering with delicate settings. No worries for the future upgrades - put the file on the card and off you go. It is the same on M10. Also, on the page #119 of M10-R user manual everything is explained in detail - for those who do read it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 8, 2022 by Al Brown 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/354092-leica-10r-firmware-update/?do=findComment&comment=4593256'>More sharing options...
James Sch. Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted December 8, 2022 Thank you so much for the above kind help! Solved my troubles and let me learn new knowledge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaR10 Posted December 8, 2022 Share #7 Posted December 8, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yep! As the old saying goes; "When all else fails, read the instructions"....r/ Mark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted December 8, 2022 Share #8 Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, LeicaR10 said: Yep! As the old saying goes; "When all else fails, read the instructions"....r/ Mark If nothing fails, dont worry the instructions 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted December 9, 2022 Share #9 Posted December 9, 2022 7 hours ago, LeicaR10 said: Yep! As the old saying goes; "When all else fails, read the instructions"....r/ Mark Next thing you’ll say is we should ask for directions if we think we are lost. Never! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted December 9, 2022 Share #10 Posted December 9, 2022 As an aside, I find the OPs assumption that this was a problem rather than a feature, quite interesting from a psychological perspective. I'm not sure if this reflects an overall mistrust about software reliability in general or Leica firmware in particular. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted December 9, 2022 Share #11 Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tailwagger said: As an aside, I find the OPs assumption that this was a problem rather than a feature, quite interesting from a psychological perspective. I'm not sure if this reflects an overall mistrust about software reliability in general or Leica firmware in particular. It reflects the prerogative that everything scrollable should also be clickable, especially in a menu. No deep Freudian subliminal meaning here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted December 9, 2022 Share #12 Posted December 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Al Brown said: It reflects the prerogative that everything scrollable should also be clickable, especially in a menu. Ah... no. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What you suggest simply isn't the case. Actions are typically grayed out when the current state of the system is such that it can not execute the requested operation. Failing to do so is far more heinous. i.e you wind up smashing an enabled button dozens of times and nothing happens and you haven't a clue as to why or whether or not what you asked to have done was or not. Now we can argue about whether or not it would be better or not to allow for the button to be pressed and displaying a popup stating, sorry can't do that right now, but the pros and cons of such an approach are a rat hole not worth going down here. What the Leica firmware did was 100% logical. There was no new update to load thus the functionality was grayed out. This has been a common practice in UI design for 50 years, yet the OP somehow found it disturbing enough to post about it. That suggests a level of mistrust given there was no failure or any inconvenience involved, just a sense that something was amiss. Given the dozens upon dozens of similar threads here, all the grousing about Leica firmware and the state of the software industry in general, I find myself curious as to whether or not such misunderstandings are the result of users experience with these cameras or some broader problem in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! What you suggest simply isn't the case. Actions are typically grayed out when the current state of the system is such that it can not execute the requested operation. Failing to do so is far more heinous. i.e you wind up smashing an enabled button dozens of times and nothing happens and you haven't a clue as to why or whether or not what you asked to have done was or not. Now we can argue about whether or not it would be better or not to allow for the button to be pressed and displaying a popup stating, sorry can't do that right now, but the pros and cons of such an approach are a rat hole not worth going down here. What the Leica firmware did was 100% logical. There was no new update to load thus the functionality was grayed out. This has been a common practice in UI design for 50 years, yet the OP somehow found it disturbing enough to post about it. That suggests a level of mistrust given there was no failure or any inconvenience involved, just a sense that something was amiss. Given the dozens upon dozens of similar threads here, all the grousing about Leica firmware and the state of the software industry in general, I find myself curious as to whether or not such misunderstandings are the result of users experience with these cameras or some broader problem in general. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/354092-leica-10r-firmware-update/?do=findComment&comment=4594195'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 9, 2022 Share #13 Posted December 9, 2022 Well, the OP doesn't trust the default typographical settings of the forum either Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted December 9, 2022 Share #14 Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tailwagger said: What the Leica firmware did was 100% logical. There was no new update to load thus the functionality was grayed out. Exactly what I wrote in my answer #5: 23 hours ago, Al Brown said: it is greyed out to keep overly curious people away from tampering with delicate settings. It is not just UI, it is also UX as you hint in your answer. Perhaps it is OP's generational gap (must be) of UX perception. Edited December 9, 2022 by Al Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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