Jamie Roberts Posted October 4, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted October 4, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Actually, the pre-aspherical 90 f/2 Summicron-R is a superb lens and can be acquired at a reasonnable price. If you have a chance go for it. If anything, using the Apo-Summicron is totally unforgiving for portraits of women... need I say more... Â Ah but that's where the 80 lux has all the juice And they're such a steal right now, too (or were before the R10 rumour mill). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mgcd Posted October 4, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted October 4, 2007 Ah but that's where the 80 lux has all the juice And they're such a steal right now, too (or were before the R10 rumour mill). Â As we all know it's also a question of taste, the 80 is just too soft for me compared to the Summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted October 4, 2007 Ah yes i did not think of the 80/1.4. Has it the same kind of fingerprint as the M 75/1.4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4, 2007 Share #24 Â Posted October 4, 2007 You mean the pre-apo 90/2 Conrad right? Smooth bokeh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted October 4, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted October 4, 2007 You mean the pre-apo 90/2 Conrad right? Smooth bokeh? Â Yes, that's the one, I like the bokeh but I'm from the generation where we looked at the actual sharp parts... Â Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted October 4, 2007 He he i could be your father Conrad (could i? 1946) but i don't like sharp things in the OOF personally. Anyway sharper lens than the 80/1.4 but smoother than the 90/2A if i understand well. This pre-asph 90 could well be for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted October 4, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted October 4, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) LCT, Â I wonder why you wouldn't consider the 100 macro coming from rangefinder. Superb lens, and broaden your range with macro. Â Always enjoy your comments. Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted October 4, 2007 Not patient enough to do macro i'm afraid. A couple of f/1.4 or f/2 Leica lenses would just be great to complement my Nikon stuff if Leica launch a full frame DSLR to my likings. So 'lux or 'cron 35 & 50 that is finally the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted October 4, 2007 Share #29  Posted October 4, 2007 They have this digital future - BUT: 1) the new DSLR will only take old R glass via an adapter because of new bajonet - and this is not even sure. 2) the new DSLR will have a larger sensor than 24x36. so I assume they are building a whole new system to fit into a new high end niche - maybe competition to H3, maybe below 3) given that new sensor size the R lenses will be only usable in Crop mode 4) the old glass will never be AF - for AF and using FF you need the new lenses  I decided to sell most of my R glass, except some pieces I really love and want to keep for sentimental reasons.  So, where does this leave the D3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 4, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted October 4, 2007 ...I decided to sell most of my R glass... Hard to sell when prices are low doc. Just acquired my first R lens. A gorgeous pre-asph 3 cam 90/2 for 240 GBP. I dream to get prices like that for my M lenses. Thanks for your advice guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted October 5, 2007 Share #31 Â Posted October 5, 2007 My favorite day-to-day lenses are the 35 cron and 90 AA. Also love the 19 and 28 when it comes to wides. Both the 60 and 100 macro are great macro choices. On the long end, the 180 APO Elmarit is amazing and still fits in a shoulder bag. Â I'm nost sure why anyone would rule out the 35 cron. It is my go-to lens on the DMR. Fast, easy, precise focusing, with incredible sharpness and pleasing overall look to the images. Â David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 5, 2007 Share #32 Â Posted October 5, 2007 As we all know it's also a question of taste, the 80 is just too soft for me compared to the Summicron. Â Hmmm, yes, I agree it's a taste thing and a tough call, Conrad, between two wonderful lenses. Â The 80 certainly gets very sharp though, as you get past f2. Do you think the cron is significantly sharper at say, f4 or so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH21 Posted October 5, 2007 Share #33  Posted October 5, 2007 I've got:  21-35 50 Lux, 50 Cron 35-70 f/4, 35-70 f/2.8 80 Lux 80-200 f/4 100 apo macro  Agree with everyone above .... the 80 Lux is incredible for portraits.  I'm going to sell one of my 50mm's but will keep the rest. They all work great on both my DMR and my Canon 5D (shaved mirror).  I think the latest canon 1DsIII will increase demand for R glass because most of Canon's stuff is not sharp enough for the 21Mp.  I want to buy a 19mm ROM.  E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Brittenson Posted October 5, 2007 Share #34 Â Posted October 5, 2007 I have: 19/2.8 current model (mine is modified to fit Canon 1Ds/1Ds2) 35-70/4 60 Macro 80/1.4 APO 280/4, extenders R9,DMR Â I might sell the 19 and 80. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted October 5, 2007 Share #35  Posted October 5, 2007 A 3 cam 50mm Summicron with retractable hood is a steal at the moment - I paid about £120 for mine, 180 Euros. The 28mm f2.8 is also very good - I have a pre-ROM version that I've used a lot - I paid about £200, 300 Euros.  Both used on a Canon 5D.  I'd know all about these if Steve would only look at his personal mail !! :rolleyes:   :D  Rolo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 5, 2007 Share #36 Â Posted October 5, 2007 ...I'm nost sure why anyone would rule out the 35 cron. It is my go-to lens on the DMR. Fast, easy, precise focusing, with incredible sharpness and pleasing overall look to the images... The 35/2 got 4 stars at Chasseur d'Images, 3 for the 35/1.4 and 5 for the 35/2.8 but the latter is too slow for me and the 35/1.4's too big so OK for the 35/2. Just got a near mint 3-cam one for 530 euro. A bit expensive perhaps but still acceptable IMHO. Thank you David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 5, 2007 Share #37 Â Posted October 5, 2007 You could skip the 35/2 R altogether, LCT ... I believe you've already got too many 35 crons for M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 5, 2007 Share #38  Posted October 5, 2007 A 3 cam 50mm Summicron with retractable hood is a steal at the moment - I paid about £120 for mine, 180 Euros... Just got a nice one for 270 euro, thanks Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 5, 2007 Share #39 Â Posted October 5, 2007 ...I believe you've already got too many 35 crons for M. Just a cron and a lux, poor me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted October 5, 2007 Share #40  Posted October 5, 2007 Hmmm, yes, I agree it's a taste thing and a tough call, Conrad, between two wonderful lenses.  The 80 certainly gets very sharp though, as you get past f2. Do you think the cron is significantly sharper at say, f4 or so?  Jamie, I think the cron is sharp pretty much from the onset and remains that way overall, it's one of those that does not require to get any sharper, if you know what I mean in the Leica jargon. I also think there is a personality element, in so far that a particular lens may go well with my photographic persona if you will. Believe me I tried, I was lent the 80mm on several occasions we just never really hit it off, but that's just me, I'm the faithful sort and my 90 was keeping a watchful eye on my demeanour... lol  Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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