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[pippy]

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2 hours ago, 3D-Kraft.com said:

...They listened. The resistance when entering the "close up" range is clearly perceptible on the new 50/1.4 and it also does not have the unloved infinity stop anymore.

I'm glad to read that the close-up change-over has been adjusted. As far as the infinity-lock is concerned? Read my comment at the end of the previous post......😸......

Philip.

[widi5006]

3 hours ago, Al Brown said:

What about the misfortunately placed focusing ring next to the body? That feature got the most complaints from users.

I took a look at a couple of the Typoch lenses.....nice build quality and good image IQ (from the few quick test images I did.

But the placement of the focusing ring was a deal-breaker for me, very uncomfortable to use (and for some reason was never mentioned in any of the Youtube "reviews"). I am glad that I tried it in person.

[3D-Kraft.com]

Yes, they probably needed the space for the DoF indicator (gimmick) and sacrificed some ergonomics for it, but the image quality makes up for it.
Regarding the infinity lock of the other Simeras: It can be easily removed, if you do not like it:

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Edited December 17, 2024 by 3D-Kraft.com

[Einst_Stein]

I think Thypoch will feel honored if the user interface is the only complaint, indicating the optical quality has no major flaw.  

[gammarART]

The handling of the Simera focus ring continues to receive criticism from some users. Personally, I found it excellent. And on December 20th, the 28mm and 35mm versions are also expected to arrive, following the design of the new 50mm: no infinity lock, but with a focus tab.

 

For those who want a detailed look into the optical qualities of the three Simeras, I highly recommend checking out @BastianK in-depth reviews. Or better yet, try the lenses on your own camera.

 

I was thoroughly impressed with the Simeras I tried. The only reason I didn’t keep them was that the difference compared to my existing lenses just wasn’t significant enough. Of course, it’s possible to prefer the less well-corrected output of the Summilux – that’s a matter of personal taste rather than a rational evaluation of pure image quality. For instance, I’m not a fan of lenses that struggle with backlighting as much as the Summilux 50mm Asph does. Others love that look. To each their own 😉

 

Just recently, the Thypoch Cine lenses for M-mount were released. The idea behind them is that they can be adapted to any full-frame mirrorless mount, which makes sense. However, it seems the Cine lenses don’t feature rangefinder coupling.

Still, there’s hope that the remaining focal lengths will also be released as fully functional M-mount lenses.

 

For me, Thypoch is definitely the most interesting third-party manufacturer for M-mount at the moment – even if none of their lenses have stayed in my kit so far.

[jankap]

vor 13 Stunden schrieb Knightspirit:

Not to get off topic - but how do you like it? Compared to the VM 50mm F1 - is it even remotely sharp at 0.95? Just wondering...

Hi, I have seen your question. 

An answer is difficult, as I don't have a comparison.  I am not the type to take pictures of brick walls. Furthermore, I am a Topaz-user. But the bokeh of the lens is very smooth. A centrering test with the method of Jim Kasson was very good AND delivered a sharper result than my Elmar of 1950 (both at f/4). Mine is not rangefinder coupled, and the adapter is too thin. I plan to file a shim.

The lens is very large and heavy. Because of the weight, I use it for "art" pictures at wider than f/2 only. Mounted on my Sigma fp I have a remarkable camera; but with the Sony QX1 it is still more remarkable.🫠

 

 

 

 

[gammarART]

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Man, this TTartisan is shiny 😁

[gammarART]

But that’s exactly what produces those beautiful flares that so many love about their Summilux lenses 😁🤫

What’s still missing, though, is the matching shiny high-gloss M to go with it…

[gammarART]

Nice job ✨

[3D-Kraft.com]

vor einer Stunde schrieb gammarART:

What’s still missing, though, is the matching shiny high-gloss M to go with it…

May be, you are lucky and find them on auction: https://leicarumors.com/2022/08/20/some-of-the-gold-plated-leica-m10-p-royal-thai-limited-edition-cameras-will-be-auctioned-by-christies-in-bangkok-thailand.aspx/

[3D-Kraft.com]

Looks nice, but I think you mean T1.5 insteat of f/1.5?
Lenses with transmission T1.5 usually are f/1.4.

Curious to see, how the Simera (non-C) will perform as 75/1.4.

[Einst_Stein]

How many arms or legs does it cost?

[J S H]

6 hours ago, jankap said:

Hi, I have seen your question. 

An answer is difficult, as I don't have a comparison.  I am not the type to take pictures of brick walls. Furthermore, I am a Topaz-user. But the bokeh of the lens is very smooth. A centrering test with the method of Jim Kasson was very good AND delivered a sharper result than my Elmar of 1950 (both at f/4). Mine is not rangefinder coupled, and the adapter is too thin. I plan to file a shim.

The lens is very large and heavy. Because of the weight, I use it for "art" pictures at wider than f/2 only. Mounted on my Sigma fp I have a remarkable camera; but with the Sony QX1 it is still more remarkable.🫠

Those setups sound interesting. Do you have a picture of the lens mounted on the FP? Is it usable wide open, or do you need to stop down?

 

 

 

 

[J S H]

1 hour ago, Al Brown said:

Talking about Thypoch, they recently put out a Cine lens kit "Simera-C" in M mount that includes 21, 28, 35, 50, and 75mm and ALL ARE f/1.5...

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I'm sure those are winners...if I were looking for a set of small spherical cine lenses, they would be on the short list. Hopefully they are working on Anamorphics. 

[J S H]

1 minute ago, Al Brown said:

It will be VERY hard to beat Blazar Remus... the best full frame full character price/performance Chinese Anamorphics out there. I own a set.

Yes, those look to be great and are on my radar. I have also been looking at the Cato series from Blazar. My ideal Anamorphics would be similar to the Thypoch set you posted - Small, full frame, M mount. They could be used on almost every system. 

[J S H]

Yes, I can use the full sensor of the RED and crop/scale/tweak the final aspect ratio as I see fit...and 6:5 is there if I need a strict 2.39 aspect ratio output with 2X lenses. Most of what I shoot is nature and I have found that it can be visually pleasing to de-squeeze 2X Ana capture a bit less (i.e. shoot with 2X, but de-squeeze as if it were shot at 1.6 or 1.8). This can make natural features such as mountains or trees appear to be a bit more impressive. It also helps tremendously if the lens doesn't cover the entire sensor, as you can decide what to keep with a little extra leeway at 2x. Of course, it is different in a studio setting and in that case, it is nice to have a matching set of lenses that all cover your chosen format appropriately.

I also shoot quite a bit of Timelapse with Sony bodies and 2x with the 3:2 sensor is a good fit, especially if the lens doesn't cover perfectly and you need to tweak the final framing. You can crop off a bit at the edges and still fill 2.39 easily. However, in video mode on the Sony bodies 1.5 or 1.6 is definitely a better fit. It is advantageous to have a few different tools in the arsenal. 

Edited December 17, 2024 by J S H