Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #41 Posted October 28, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 minutes ago, a.noctilux said: For now, your Nikon SLR + Leica R "solution" is not that bad, just stick with this untill you are "fit" for Leica M (expensive route). ....... Or electronic viewfinder! A Nikon D810 or D850 smacks of modern, plastic, technology...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Hi Shepherdphotographer, Take a look here Leica M(9?) body purchase advice to use Leica R lenses. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #42 Posted October 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Anbaric said: Only the R lenses are worthy of your Billingham bag! Yeah!! Great Anbaric!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted October 28, 2022 Share #43 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Shepherdphotographer said: M240, M10 or M11,as some forum users suggested earlier, then no? Well, no. The M240/M10/M11 can only use R lenses with an electronic viewfinder (electronic Visoflex) which you have said you don't want. Those M bodies, with the addition of the electronic viewfider, are essentially very clunky mirrorless cameras with fewer functions than the SL/SL2/SL2-S/Panasonic Lumix S1/S1R/S5. R lenses cannot be used without either a reflex mirror housing or an electronic viewfinder. There are no M bodies that will allow for rangefinder focus with R lenses. Edited October 28, 2022 by hepcat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #44 Posted October 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Anbaric said: The DMR is problematic because it's old and you can't get batteries. I cam'T find easily? Are they particular? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #45 Posted October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, hepcat said: Well, no. The M240/M10/M11 can only use R lenses with an electronic viewfinder (electronic Visoflex) which you have said you don't want. Those M bodies, with the addition of the electronic viewfider, are essentially very clunky mirrorless cameras with fewer functions than the SL/SL2/SL2-S/Panasonic Lumix S1/S1R/S5. R lenses cannot be used without either a reflex mirror housing or an electronic viewfinder. There are no M bodies that will allow for rangefinder focus with M lenses. Ok, I understand 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted October 28, 2022 Share #46 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Shepherdphotographer said: I cam'T find easily? Are they particular? Only Leica sold the unique rechargeable batteries, and they haven't for years. Old ones are likely dead or in poor condition by now. Some third party companies can take the old batteries and install new cells, as jaapv mentions. Unlike your Nikon, the DMR is only 10MP and has a crop sensor, so your wider lenses will no longer be wide, and you'll have to stick to low ISOs with a sensor of that vintage. If anything goes wrong with the DMR it's likely nobody can fix it - Leica won't. The only real advantages over your Leitax/Nikon are that the R8/9 can do open aperture metering and control the aperture in exposure modes that require it. Edited October 28, 2022 by Anbaric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 28, 2022 Share #47 Posted October 28, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 18 minutes ago, Shepherdphotographer said: True, but there is not the charm of a Leica body and a rangefinder ..... But not with R lenses… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 28, 2022 Share #48 Posted October 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, Shepherdphotographer said: I cam'T find easily? Are they particular? There were only about 3000 made and quite a few have expired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted October 28, 2022 Share #49 Posted October 28, 2022 To sum up your needs, requirements and desires, R doesn't work with M as you wish. R lenses have the magic you like, they are great I agree wholeheartedly. If you want to use an M there are many third party lenses to choose, many have the qualities of R glass, classical rendering and they are reasonably priced. Look at Voigtlander lenses or perhaps the newer Chinese lenses. Good luck with your quest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattiasAndersson Posted October 28, 2022 Share #50 Posted October 28, 2022 Film ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #51 Posted October 28, 2022 He is stronger than me ...... I am thinking about it and maybe I will switch to D850 when the D810 is at the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #52 Posted October 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, MattiasAndersson said: Film ? No, too expensive...... D850 o DMR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #53 Posted October 28, 2022 ...... Also a Nikon Df silver, which is "vintage"!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share #54 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/df.htm But a Leica M is a Leica M....... with electronic viewfinder or live view that it is........ Excuse me for the long reflection .... I close it here Edited October 28, 2022 by Shepherdphotographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted October 28, 2022 Share #55 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) I use te Sigma fp - with its L-mount - for ancient lenses, R lenses and M lenses. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 28, 2022 by jankap Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/342809-leica-m9-body-purchase-advice-to-use-leica-r-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=4548195'>More sharing options...
hepcat Posted October 28, 2022 Share #56 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Shepherdphotographer said: ...... Also a Nikon Df silver, which is "vintage"!! I had a Df for several years. They're a good body, with the D4 sensor, but they're all plastic. I like the Lumix S1 much better, both for "feel" and for sensor output. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted October 28, 2022 Share #57 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Shepherdphotographer said: https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/df.htm But a Leica M is a Leica M....... with electronic viewfinder or live view that it is........ Excuse me for the long reflection .... I close it here There are good reasons to go with a later digital M: so long as you have M mount lenses to use the rangefinder. You can use R mount lenses with the electronic finder occasionally, but if you're ONLY using R mount lenses, it makes for an odd, less ergonomic, and less robust camera than just using a mirrorless body for daily field use. I understand your desire to use your current set of lenses with a digital M body, but it just isn't a practical setup for regular use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share #58 Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, hepcat said: There are good reasons to go with a later digital M: so long as you have M mount lenses to use the rangefinder. You can use R mount lenses with the electronic finder occasionally, but if you're ONLY using R mount lenses, it makes for an odd, less ergonomic, and less robust camera than just using a mirrorless body for daily field use. I understand your desire to use your current set of lenses with a digital M body, but it just isn't a practical setup for regular use. It's my damnation.....!!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted October 29, 2022 Author Share #59 Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, hepcat said: I had a Df for several years. They're a good body, with the D4 sensor, but they're all plastic. I like the Lumix S1 much better, both for "feel" and for sensor output. Df is built to withstand the harshest conditions, the camera features tough yet lightweight magnesium alloy top, bottom and rear shells and is capable of withstanding all weather conditions to the same level as Nikon's D-SLR D800, ensuring a better resistance to humidity and dust. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted October 29, 2022 Share #60 Posted October 29, 2022 49 minutes ago, Shepherdphotographer said: Df is built to withstand the harshest conditions, the camera features tough yet lightweight magnesium alloy top, bottom and rear shells and is capable of withstanding all weather conditions to the same level as Nikon's D-SLR D800, ensuring a better resistance to humidity and dust. That doesn't mean it still doesn't feel 'plasticky.' And it does. As I said, I had one for about four years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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