carstenw Posted September 19, 2007 Share #21 Posted September 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Guys, These days I've been thinking a lot about buying a second body before the price goes up. Finally I decided not to do it. Why? 1.- Are all these problems just firmware problems or are they related to electronics and misconception? 2.- In almost 1 year now since the M8 is on the market, I believe that Leica had enough time to produce a firmware to solve these problems if they were really related to firmware. Manuel, Leica has only taken over the firmware programming a month or two ago. Before that it was Jenoptik which was busy making Leica sound bad over their decision not to sell Sinar, actually getting Sinar/Francke&Heidecke to produce cameras, ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Olsen Posted September 19, 2007 Share #22 Posted September 19, 2007 You don't need a Skoda: My Jaguar locks up the boot once in a while and can only be reset by getting in, locking all doors, switching on and off the ignition and getting out again. They have been trying to fix it for three years now.... Huuu! Are people still buying british cars..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 19, 2007 Share #23 Posted September 19, 2007 I had an interesting experience in the desert outside of Brawley/El Centro, Imperial County CA Sunday. I was photographing an accident scene. It was about 102 degree F and I was out for about 2 hours walking up and down the highway (near heat stroke, anther story). I hit play to check my images and the screen locked up and I could not get back to menu, play or shooting mode. I ended up taking the battery out and putting it back in. Fortunately, my images were still there. A few minutes prior to that I tried to take an picture and the shutter release was unresponsive. I turned the camera off and on and that seemed to fix the problem. I was using a Lexar Pro 2gb card. Never had a problem with this card before. Anyone else had such an experience either from heat or just locking up in general. I suspect the heat, my cell hone was so hot I couldn't even touch it. Leonardo I think that this 'hick up' was due to that you shoot RAW and jpg 'fine' together and was a little too early hitting the 'play' button. - Could that be so? In the RAW+jpg 'fine' mode Leica M8 is working slow (so is my Canon EOS 1Ds II in the same mode) and you have go 'work in pace' with a camera that 'walks slow'.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenjh Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share #24 Posted September 19, 2007 I think that this 'hick up' was due to that you shoot RAW and jpg 'fine' together and was a little too early hitting the 'play' button. - Could that be so? In the RAW+jpg 'fine' mode Leica M8 is working slow (so is my Canon EOS 1Ds II in the same mode) and you have go 'work in pace' with a camera that 'walks slow'.. I was indeed shooting DNG & JPEG Fine, interesting thought. Leonard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 19, 2007 Share #25 Posted September 19, 2007 Huuu! Are people still buying british cars..? Best car I ever had... Drove Volvo for 20 years before that. Not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 19, 2007 Share #26 Posted September 19, 2007 I think that this 'hick up' was due to that you shoot RAW and jpg 'fine' together and was a little too early hitting the 'play' button. - Could that be so? In the RAW+jpg 'fine' mode Leica M8 is working slow (so is my Canon EOS 1Ds II in the same mode) and you have go 'work in pace' with a camera that 'walks slow'.. Nope, shooting RAW only. But it does seem to happen when shooting quickly or pushing the wrong combo of buttons. Yes, alas, within the heart of our beloved Leicas lurks a Windows machine. Ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teehas53 Posted September 19, 2007 Share #27 Posted September 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... typically British: nothing extreme at all (except perhaps the heady atmosphere of academia... ) Now THAT'S funny! Can't imagine Leica's being sensitive to it however, when you consider all of the history... T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSL Posted September 20, 2007 Share #28 Posted September 20, 2007 I was shooting a band the other night. Was standing on the stage. My M8 froze twice...nothing worked...had to remove battery, to get back to normal. VERY annoying! And embarrasing, when standing with a bunch of clients.....!!!Also get the multiple pictures, when trying to zoom in very often.... I REALLY hope that Leica wil fix this FAST!!!! It's rapidly becoming obvious that they don't know how to fix it. Their response to these ongoing glitches is to raise the price. Looks as if Leica got into the digital swim a day late and a dollar short and just doesn't know how to catch up. It's a tragedy. I look back on my Leica years with pleasure, but this seems a different company. The only thing it has in common with its ancestor is the name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradreiman Posted September 20, 2007 Share #29 Posted September 20, 2007 It's rapidly becoming obvious that they don't know how to fix it. Their response to these ongoing glitches is to raise the price. Looks as if Leica got into the digital swim a day late and a dollar short and just doesn't know how to catch up. It's a tragedy. I look back on my Leica years with pleasure, but this seems a different company. The only thing it has in common with its ancestor is the name. bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted September 20, 2007 Share #30 Posted September 20, 2007 bollocks Hear, hear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenjh Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share #31 Posted September 20, 2007 I had an interesting experience in the desert outside of Brawley/El Centro, Imperial County CA Sunday. I was photographing an accident scene. It was about 102 degree F and I was out for about 2 hours walking up and down the highway (near heat stroke, anther story). I hit play to check my images and the screen locked up and I could not get back to menu, play or shooting mode. I ended up taking the battery out and putting it back in. Fortunately, my images were still there. A few minutes prior to that I tried to take an picture and the shutter release was unresponsive. I turned the camera off and on and that seemed to fix the problem. I was using a Lexar Pro 2gb card. Never had a problem with this card before. Anyone else had such an experience either from heat or just locking up in general. I suspect the heat, my cell hone was so hot I couldn't even touch it. Leonardo I guess it s a 50/50 chance, heat vs. shooting DNG & JPG fine and camera still writing the data, I don't remember this. I am back in San Francisco and to 60 degree F weather so time will tell. Thanks for your responses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pekem Posted September 20, 2007 Share #32 Posted September 20, 2007 It's been a while since we had a firmware upgrade, and really, these things NEED TO BE NAILED SOON. Come on, Leica.... Has it really been a while? It seems that it was only a month or so ago that the last upgrade was delivered. Or is it that weekly upgrades are now being called for with all the attendant costs of that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted September 20, 2007 Share #33 Posted September 20, 2007 Firmware faults? Umm... Why are people here suggesting that lockup problems (etc) can be fixed in firmware? Hint - It isn't always programming. Could be residual solder flux that wasn't properly cleaned, could be a micro crack in a trace. A ribbon cable could be loose. Might be a bad solder joint. A silicon part might be "weak" and susceptible to temperature extremes. Lockups, per se, can't neccesarily be traced to a program glitch, though software redundancy could make a momentary hardware fault less likely to crash the system (assuming that the hardware fault is more or less similar in most cases). If there are a lot of people having lockups, I'd seriously recommend y'all compare serial numbers and see if there is a correlation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted September 20, 2007 Share #34 Posted September 20, 2007 PS - If anyone knows why my version of &^%$ Microsoft Word crashes on one particular document when I try to insert a second text box (not the first text box mind you, just the second one). You think Leica has problems? I'd like to take the Microsoft Office programming team and, to quote Khan Noonian Sing, "Hurt them, and go on hurting them." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted September 20, 2007 Share #35 Posted September 20, 2007 It's rapidly becoming obvious that they don't know how to fix it. Their response to these ongoing glitches is to raise the price. Looks as if Leica got into the digital swim a day late and a dollar short and just doesn't know how to catch up. It's a tragedy. I look back on my Leica years with pleasure, but this seems a different company. The only thing it has in common with its ancestor is the name. Leica "raises" prices because that idiot in our White House, Chimpy the Fake President, has pursued policies (and we say "policies" in a snarky and rude kind of way) that have caused the dollar to sink, sink, sink against the Euro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 20, 2007 Share #36 Posted September 20, 2007 Leica "raises" prices because that idiot in our White House, Chimpy the Fake President, has pursued policies (and we say "policies" in a snarky and rude kind of way) that have caused the dollar to sink, sink, sink against the Euro. Ha, Ha, Ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 20, 2007 Share #37 Posted September 20, 2007 Best car I ever had... Drove Volvo for 20 years before that. Not even close. Up here in the Far North we trust only 4 wheel drive...(the really best 4 by 4 by far) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/33812-m8-freezes-in-desert/?do=findComment&comment=358619'>More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 20, 2007 Share #38 Posted September 20, 2007 Leica "raises" prices because that idiot in our White House, Chimpy the Fake President, has pursued policies (and we say "policies" in a snarky and rude kind of way) that have caused the dollar to sink, sink, sink against the Euro. Nice to know I'm not the ONLY democrat around here! Or, maybe I shouldn't assume that. I guess a lot of republicans have finally seen the light with this idiot in the oval office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 20, 2007 Share #39 Posted September 20, 2007 Up here in the Far North we trust only 4 wheel drive...(the really best 4 by 4 by far) Man, did you have to remind us what is just around the corner???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 20, 2007 Share #40 Posted September 20, 2007 Nice to know I'm not the ONLY democrat around here! Or, maybe I shouldn't assume that. I guess a lot of republicans have finally seen the light with this idiot in the oval office. Democrats!? To do right what is going on in Washington is far beond choosing between D an R. - One party supported by Coca-cola and the other by Pepsi Cola, - and none of them representing the people. You need a political reform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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