logan2z Posted October 19, 2022 Share #921  Posted October 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 minute ago, plaidshirts said: Only good thing to come out of this is if they can now repair M6 meters again. Is that true? I assume the meter in this camera is just the MP meter since it's just an MP. If they could have dropped an MP meter into an old M6 to 'repair' the meter, wouldn't they have done that before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plaidshirts Posted October 19, 2022 Share #922  Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, logan2z said: Is that true? I assume the meter in this camera is just the MP meter since it's just an MP. If they could have dropped an MP meter into an old M6 to 'repair' the meter, wouldn't they have done that before? I have no idea, just wishing it were so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 19, 2022 Share #923 Â Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, plaidshirts said: I have no idea, just wishing it were so I'm no expert, but I kind of doubt it or that would have been a repair option before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted October 19, 2022 Share #924  Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, logan2z said: If it's truly limited to 500 pieces, the market is collectors who will stash it away in a safe and watch it appreciate. Personally, I can't think of a single reason to buy this camera over an MP. But I prefer the non-articulating film advance, the pull-up rewind knob and the fingerprint magnet black paint. I could live without the red dot as well... This I feel is the biggest issue with Leica nowadays.  Its all about collectors and watching things appreciate in value.  I prefer the MP over the M6 as well, for those same reasons. 1 minute ago, Jimmyp82 said: The reason to release it is as I said. Youtubers and influencers have built up the hype and therefore value of the M6, there's no technical reason behind it. But the M6 is hyped and popular, because its price is cheap, not for any technical or logical reason.  Its a cheap M with a meter, thats really it.  This is not cheap. 1 minute ago, UliWer said: Well, the 50mm Summilux asph. in "old"style has its market. Why do they produce cameras and lenses in silver chrome when they have blacks already? Why not put an M6-sticker on an MP and cause 50 pages in this forum before it is released? WIth that I agree to some extent, but its not pretending to be the older lens, its very clearly a 50Lux ASPH with a new body.  This is trying to be an M6.   Just now, Al Brown said: It is my educated guess that your assumption is not correct. I bet it will be sold out in a heartbeat, especially if it is a limited edition. I am sure it will be sold out immediately as with every other Leica release recently.  But I bet if its not limited edition, it'll be easy to buy a lot sooner than an MP or 35APO will be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 19, 2022 Share #925  Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, logan2z said: If they could have dropped an MP meter into an old M6 to 'repair' the meter, wouldn't they have done that before? They do this already. The meter of the M6 TTL cannot be repaired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidshirts Posted October 19, 2022 Share #926 Â Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, logan2z said: I'm no expert, but I kind of doubt it or that would have been a repair option before. It wasn't. MP parts could not be used to repair M6 meters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotomas Posted October 19, 2022 Share #927  Posted October 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 4 Minuten schrieb Huss: i’ve had zero issue using the ‘inferior’ C200 and my clients are very happy with the results.  Do u have a before and after showing the differences? I have to look in my archive. Guess I've done a comparison with test charts. But i don't have scans from that yet. For the pictures I've scanned from both films, I'm afraid they aren't from the same subjects and so they are not really comparable. But what I remembered was that it was harder to scan the C200 then the Superia and I found the colors of the Superia way better. Especially skin tones, but also others. Also the C200 film stripes was not as flat as the Superia. But this was years ago. As you see by the prices I mentioned I could have saved a lot of money by using the C200 instead off the Superia. But I decided to stay with the Superia. Now Fuji decided for me:( But I would say the C200 was one of the best budget films. Unfortunately now you can't be sure if you still get the C200 I tested years ago today. There was some reports that on some boxes is written "Made in USA". So could be that you get Kodak stuff in there instead of the original Fuji and you can never be sure what is inside. I did a comparison between budget and quality film here. But that was Fuji Superia Reala vs Kodak Ultramax 400. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 19, 2022 Share #928  Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, neekon said: This is trying to be an M6.  Well, this is a minor fault, as the original M6 was a substandard MP. If they sell a camera which has the same standard as the MP and just call it M6, nobody will be cheated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidshirts Posted October 19, 2022 Share #929  Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, UliWer said: They do this already. The meter of the M6 TTL cannot be repaired. Are you sure about that? There was news in April that they had run out of M6 boards. They were out of TTL circuit boards for quite a while now of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 19, 2022 Share #930  Posted October 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, UliWer said: They do this already. The meter of the M6 TTL cannot be repaired. 3 minutes ago, plaidshirts said: It wasn't. MP parts could not be used to repair M6 meters. I sense a contradiction here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 19, 2022 Share #931 Â Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, plaidshirts said: It wasn't. MP parts could not be used to repair M6 meters. I think you mean the M6 TTL. For the M6 they already use MP parts - which is no problem (if you don't look at the price for the repair...). Â Edited October 19, 2022 by UliWer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted October 19, 2022 Share #932  Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, UliWer said: Well, this is a minor fault, as the original M6 was a substandard MP. If they sell a camera which has the same standard as the MP and just call it M6, nobody will be cheated. not thinking people will be cheated.  I am just trying to see why this exists at its price point.  Or why to buy this vs an original M6 or MP?  Once of which is significantly cheaper, and the other is arguably a much nicer camera to use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 19, 2022 Share #933  Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, neekon said: Once of which is significantly cheaper, and the other is arguably a much nicer camera to use I regularly see 30 years old M6 on the second hand market which cost perhaps 30% less than a new MP - this is not cheap. I don't see any difference in the handling of an Mp and the new MP"6" - only the rewind lever (which I always hated with my M6) is different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 19, 2022 Share #934  Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, UliWer said: only the rewind lever (which I always hated with my M6) is different. The film advance lever appears to be different as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 19, 2022 Share #935  Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, logan2z said: The film advance lever appears to be different as well. Right. Another set back. Though I know people who prefer the M6 advance lever as well as the rewind lever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neekon Posted October 19, 2022 Share #936  Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, UliWer said: I regularly see 30 years old M6 on the second hand market which cost perhaps 30% less than a new MP - this is not cheap. I don't see any difference in the handling of an Mp and the new MP"6" - only the rewind lever (which I always hated with my M6) is different. I see 30yr old M6s at 2800-3800.  That is cheap by Leica terms.   a new MP is nearly 5700$ I prefer the MP winder for sure over the M6 winder, but this camera was the perfect chance to actually capitalize on the M6 love right now, 4000$ and it would've been perfect. make it aluminum instead of brass, or even nickel.   you have an M6 thats more than an old one, but still has warranty and comes brand new.  To me, releasing an MP with an M6 skin for about the same price is not really in the spirit of why the M6 is popular and loved.  If its limited to 500 pieces, than I can see the price being more justified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted October 19, 2022 Share #937  Posted October 19, 2022 Woohoo! Fifty pages and the only thing we know for sure is they’re going to be snapped up by the collectors. Do we know if ther have been changes to the materials? Is it an updated meter with extended ISO? Is the rewind crank and arm stronger than the original M6? Hopefully, we will all know soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradS Posted October 19, 2022 Share #938 Â Posted October 19, 2022 ...and the nit-picking, bitching and squabbling have begun. <sigh> 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 19, 2022 Share #939  Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, madNbad said: Do we know if ther have been changes to the materials? Leica Rumors says that the top/bottom plates are brass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 19, 2022 Share #940 Â Posted October 19, 2022 Same with the MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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