File number reset when updating Q2 firmware

[Koen_NL]

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So annoying, I updated my Q2 to firmware 4.0 and the file number count reset to start at 100, despite having saved and reinstalled my profile. What did I do wrong? Or is this standard?

Of course I'll overcome it by changing the letter that precedes the file number.

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[acg69]

Unfortunately it is standard and even though we have discussed it as nauseam here, Leica kept the bug in 4.0. There are some workarounds that do work (a search will lead you to the right post) that entail changing the image number to the last one of the folder in the computer, putting the card back in and shooting one image which will then bump the folder from, say, 100 to 101 - keep doing this until you reach your desired image number. Apparently there is an easier way too (mentioned in that same thread) but I cannot recall how it works.

[AndrewDD]

I keep seeing complaints about this, I really don't understand the issue. Unless you keep every photo you ever take, in the same folder, and don't rename them, what's the problem?

[hdmesa]

9 hours ago, Koen_NL said:

So annoying, I updated my Q2 to firmware 4.0 and the file number count reset to start at 100, despite having saved and reinstalled my profile. What did I do wrong? Or is this standard?

Of course I'll overcome it by changing the letter that precedes the file number.

If you look in the most recent Q2 firmware update thread, I have instructions for how to fix this (continue reading the thread for caveats as to the folder name).

Key posts:

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332163-firmware-updates-for-leica-q2-v40-and-q2-monochrom-v20/?do=findComment&comment=4430605

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332163-firmware-updates-for-leica-q2-v40-and-q2-monochrom-v20/?do=findComment&comment=4431272

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332163-firmware-updates-for-leica-q2-v40-and-q2-monochrom-v20/?do=findComment&comment=4431691

Edited May 25, 2022 by hdmesa

[acg69]

14 hours ago, AndrewDD said:

I keep seeing complaints about this, I really don't understand the issue. Unless you keep every photo you ever take, in the same folder, and don't rename them, what's the problem?

I keep an index of my favorite images that goes back 10 years at least. It is a searchable database with keywords etc. If two images have the same name, it is (obviously) an issue. Even more obvious is that it should be corrected by Leica ASAP…

[tom.w.bn]

vor 31 Minuten schrieb acg69:

I keep an index of my favorite images that goes back 10 years at least. It is a searchable database with keywords etc. If two images have the same name, it is (obviously) an issue. Even more obvious is that it should be corrected by Leica ASAP…

Ok, you build your own solution around unique filenames. All image catalogue solutions on the market can handle multiple files with the same name though. They have to, because when you use many cameras from the same vendor over 10+ years you will end up with lots of files with exactly the same name. They are of course not in the same directory. The reference in a catalogue is always to a filename in a certain directory.

They should close this bug a some point. If I was responsible for prioritzing bugs, then I gave it a low priority.

[hdmesa]

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6 hours ago, acg69 said:

I keep an index of my favorite images that goes back 10 years at least. It is a searchable database with keywords etc. If two images have the same name, it is (obviously) an issue. Even more obvious is that it should be corrected by Leica ASAP…

In the latest firmware I believe they at least changed the numbering to keep counting normally after 999 shots instead of adding a 1 near the beginning of the file name and starting over at 000 with a different folder. That’s a welcome change in my opinion. 

As to the person who says it’s no big deal because LR/C1 handle the files in a database and don’t confuse them — that’s true but not everyone imports their images direct from the card/camera and uses the database feature. For example, I copy my photos off the card manually to a folder, and I have C1 set to “import in place” so that the files stay where they are. Using a proprietary database can be convenient, but it makes it very difficult to change over to another editing program should you want to someday. Another reason I copy my own files over and organize them manually is because I use both C1 and LR, and this way I can use either program depending on what features I may need (example, a series of shots from vacation where I used the digital crop feature in camera a lot: I want to edit those in LR so that they are imported with the crop already applied — C1 doesn’t read the crop).

[hdmesa]

To add to what I wrote above: on the M11 latest update to 1.4.0.0 using the Leica Fotos app, all profiles and numbering are kept intact and not reset. So Leica is listening and fixing this. Hopefully the next updates for Q/SL work the same way.

[Camaro5]

My file numbers did not reset.  The camera settings did, but the file numbers did not.  I don't know if it makes a difference, but my Q2 is brand new and made in Feb. 2022.

[acg69]

3 hours ago, Camaro5 said:

My file numbers did not reset.  The camera settings did, but the file numbers did not.  I don't know if it makes a difference, but my Q2 is brand new and made in Feb. 2022.

This is bizarre! It should have nothing to do with the date of manufacture; it is a firmware issue. Mine definitely reset… Had to fix it again manually.

[acg69]

23 hours ago, tom.w.bn said:

Ok, you build your own solution around unique filenames. All image catalogue solutions on the market can handle multiple files with the same name though. They have to, because when you use many cameras from the same vendor over 10+ years you will end up with lots of files with exactly the same name. They are of course not in the same directory. The reference in a catalogue is always to a filename in a certain directory.

They should close this bug a some point. If I was responsible for prioritzing bugs, then I gave it a low priority.

Given the absence of other or more serious bugs (to my knowledge) I would give it top priority:)

Also, why having to deal with same filenames by design? It’s a different thing to just have it happen once or twice somehow and it’s a different thing to actually “invite” it, like with this resetting business on the Q2. Using different cameras over the years, in all likelihood, you are not likely to have the same numbers since most have some initial in the beginning (like the L in the Leica files) and this ensures (to a certain extent) that your file names will be different among different cameras. Anyway, different strokes for different folks I guess… To me, for example, having a running spreadsheet is the simplest solution for my needs anyway.

[AndrewDD]

On 5/26/2022 at 8:42 AM, acg69 said:

I keep an index of my favorite images that goes back 10 years at least. It is a searchable database with keywords etc. If two images have the same name, it is (obviously) an issue. Even more obvious is that it should be corrected by Leica ASAP…

I have spent a career in IT. You should be keying your database by folder & file name, not just the file name!

There are far more important issues than this with the Q2 software.

[acg69]

OK… I have plenty of folders in my database. However, I also keep an excel sheet with some information that is important to me and it suits my workflow. In this excel sheet the primary identifier is the file name, so it would help if there were unique file names. BTW, what are, in your opinion, “far important issues than this with the Q2 software”?

[AndrewDD]

On 5/29/2022 at 9:05 PM, acg69 said:

BTW, what are, in your opinion, “far important issues than this with the Q2 software”?

The worst is the bug is the touch-release autofocus implementation. I've mentioned it elsewhere, it doesn't work in video mode, so to switch between stills & video I don't just have to change modes, I have to do a deep dive into the menus. I have written to Wetzlar about it and they agreed it is a bug, but it still isn't fixed. As I switch between photo & video a lot, often for a minute or two of video or half a dozen photos,  this is a real pain, made even worse by the cretinous decision to remove the video button. The Q was much easier to use.

[acg69]

On 6/2/2022 at 8:54 PM, AndrewDD said:

The worst is the bug is the touch-release autofocus implementation. I've mentioned it elsewhere, it doesn't work in video mode, so to switch between stills & video I don't just have to change modes, I have to do a deep dive into the menus. I have written to Wetzlar about it and they agreed it is a bug, but it still isn't fixed. As I switch between photo & video a lot, often for a minute or two of video or half a dozen photos,  this is a real pain, made even worse by the cretinous decision to remove the video button. The Q was much easier to use.

Got it. I don't do either video or touch release AF, so it completely escaped me:) But I see how this is a problem indeed.