Capture One - M Lens Recognition

[schimmey]

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Good afternoon all,

I hope I am posting this in the correct place - apologies if not.

On the M11 I have the auto setting for lens detection.

I use Capture One and note that although in the metadata tab the lens is correctly listed in the 'Lens Correction' tab the lens profile is set to 'Generic' - not the specific lens. Can anyone advise if this is what it should do and whether I need to adjust the 'Lens Correction' settings (i.e. select the appropriate lens) to maximise the image?

Thanks in advance.

Paul

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[fil-m]

Yes quite weird, just noticed that... I will investigate but if any one has ideas/tips, they are most welcome  

[schimmey]

Glad it's not just me... Cheers. Paul

[Photoworks]

in capture one the Generic option is what the camera has included in the file.

By selecting the lens you have access to additional correction..

I have noted that the M11 profiles are not carried over to capture one, it seams a M camera phenomenon. 

 

[Pulvyrider]

Hi, I have the same "problem". My M-lens is in the list but I need to add it manually....

Is there already a solution/update?

[jaapv]

On 5/26/2022 at 5:23 PM, Photoworks said:

in capture one the Generic option is what the camera has included in the file.

By selecting the lens you have access to additional correction..

I have noted that the M11 profiles are not carried over to capture one, it seams a M camera phenomenon. 

 

I guess the camera does report the lens but C1 does not read it and needs an update -which is always an issue. 

[Wyck]

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This has been a problem for me too in C1 for many versions of C1 and Leica cameras / lenses.  C1 for me has never recognised the lens used.

My work around is to select the correct lens in lens correction, I then save this as a custom preset and name it accordingly with the lens name.  I have made a preset for all of my lenses.

I then select this preset when I import my photos from - Adjustments | Styles | Custom Presets | Lens Correction

It's still not a great solution especially if various lenses are used on a shoot.  

I have a few of these presets made so that I can always select accordingly on import.

Hopefully this helps...

[digger1914]

On 9/29/2022 at 6:27 AM, Wyck said:

This has been a problem for me too in C1 for many versions of C1 and Leica cameras / lenses.  C1 for me has never recognised the lens used.

My work around is to select the correct lens in lens correction, I then save this as a custom preset and name it accordingly with the lens name.  I have made a preset for all of my lenses.

I then select this preset when I import my photos from - Adjustments | Styles | Custom Presets | Lens Correction

It's still not a great solution especially if various lenses are used on a shoot.  

I have a few of these presets made so that I can always select accordingly on import.

Hopefully this helps...

Thanks for this! I have to do this manually each time I import. The crazy thing is that the lens details are imported, so you can filter by lens. But for some reason this doesn't work everywhere in C1

[Anbaric]

Is the lens on Capture One's 'supported' list - i.e., one they have tested themselves in the lab? If so, it should be listed here:

https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002718318-Lens-support-in-Capture-One

If the lens is 'supported', and you have the latest version of Capture One, then you may want to open a case with their tech support, as suggested here:

https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360012197997-Automatic-Lens-Profile-doesn-t-get-applied

[Alberti]

On 9/28/2022 at 7:33 PM, jaapv said:

I guess the camera does report the lens but C1 does not read it and needs an update -which is always an issue. 

This is the reason I ventured in LR territory. No I don’t think C1’s policy is to fully supprt Leica, I expect some grudge is preventing them, sorry to say so.

So to be crude, no, that update won’t come.

[Adam Bonn]

Not only has C1 never seemed able to 'say' oh you shot this with that M lens, I'll automatically apply the C1 lens profile we have for it but also the C1 lens profiles seem to do very little... this was a source of frustration for me with my 35 summarit which has a noticeable amount of distortion that C1's profile does nothing to fix.

And yes the summarit 2.4 35mm is listed on their supported lenses page

Meanwhile LR is able to automatically detect and apply M glass profiles, and those profiles actually correct stuff!

If I was a dyed in the wool C1 user I'd survive, but I wasn't and this was one of the things that made me exclusively use LR/PS for Leica (despite have a latest version C1 licence)

[plaidshirts]

After reading this I checked all the photos taken with Elmarit 24mm f/2.8 ASPH and, sure enough, they all had generic lens file except for the very first shots taken with the lens. I'm guessing I must have manually put them in back then and just forgot to do so later.

It's not that big a deal as I can create a preset and apply it to the whole batch but it would be nice for C1 to automatically do it to the ONE lens that actually needs it.

[Alberti]

On 9/28/2022 at 7:33 PM, jaapv said:

I guess the camera does report the lens but C1 does not read it and needs an update -which is always an issue. 

thanks . . but that lookes like a forever problem. In the sense that not much progress is made on it.

I'm totally with Adam B, that is, on the same page. This one thing is that prevents me to switch (back) to C1.

- it can't be that hard, just read the exif, parse it and match the lens, and specifically, show the data.

- if needed, have the application of the profile (the matching) manual by user settings (we fumble along a lot with lens codes).

Edited October 20, 2024 by Alberti

[jaapv]

There are patent issues.. C1 needs to reverse engineer. 

[UliWer]

Sorry for the silly questions: 

What do you expect from "lens recognition"? Which M-lens needs to be "supported" by Capture One? 

[odoomi]

Cheabo lenses like the Apo-Summicron-M 35mm... in CaptureOne, the final image looks like that... in real life, the above line is quite straight - strange pincushion distortion which needs to be corrected. Unfortunately, there is no lens profile in CaptureOne...

 

 

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