lars_bergquist Posted September 13, 2007 Share #21 Posted September 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have conquered my leather fetishism (even though my maternal grandfather was a blacksaddler!) and got myself the Leica neoprene ERC. It protects the camera well, and it looks so grubby that nobody gives it a second look. Better than being pestered by onlookers. The old man from the Age of the M3 Case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Hi lars_bergquist, Take a look here Luigi's case - craftsmanship par excellence.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Morten Grathe Posted September 13, 2007 Share #22 Posted September 13, 2007 I also love my leathercase. It makes everything look so old and insignificant. On a recent weddingshoot, the brides father came and asked me if I had seen the photographer. At last weekends wedding one of the guests asked me if she could borrow a film. I really look forward to travelling with this rig in two weeks time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdarter Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share #23 Posted September 13, 2007 Every time I see somebody post about Luigi bag, I am one stop closer to ordering. One question because I always have problem with color name when colors are so close together. So, could somebody please tell me what this color is (pix from Luigi's page). I am interested in the bright color one in the center. I am guessing it is the Ralley-brown we are refering to? Is it? thank you Hi Tanaka, Here's Luigis colour chart - it looks to be Cognac Brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 13, 2007 Share #24 Posted September 13, 2007 While the cases aren't my thing - I seem to be in a minority of 1 in thinking they detract more than they add - I have bought one of his straps and I'd like to say (not for the first time) that Luigi is a total gentleman to deal with. Fast delivery and great communication. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted September 13, 2007 Share #25 Posted September 13, 2007 I also like the leather smell when you look through the viewfinder and the muffled shutter sound. I've just ordered mine – to fit an M8 with a Leica grip already attached (same price as his "with grip" version). I really wanted it for protection, but I'm thrilled to hear that it muffles the shutter sound as well. I had the humbling experience of shooting yesterday on a film set beside the official stills photographer. He was using a 5D and an older Canon (I think a 10D? Not sure). He said he carried the older body specifically because it was quieter. When I popped off a few shots with my M8 the director looked over and said, con mucho sarcasm, "Guy, d'you think you could get a noisier camera?" This to someone using a Leica. I realise I'm getting OT here, but one of the reasons I went for the M8 was to be unobtrusive, and I'd read that the shutter, while not "whisper quiet", was pretty good. Nonsense. It's louder than my D200, and way louder than the older Canon body this guy was using. Admittedly it sounds very old-fashioned, and that does help put people at their ease, but I'd still rather it was quieter. So, to try to get back on topic, roll on Luigi's leather case, and I'll try to remember to report back what effect it has on my shutter sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdarter Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share #26 Posted September 13, 2007 I've just ordered mine – to fit an M8 with a Leica grip already attached (same price as his "with grip" version). I really wanted it for protection, but I'm thrilled to hear that it muffles the shutter sound as well. I had the humbling experience of shooting yesterday on a film set beside the official stills photographer. He was using a 5D and an older Canon (I think a 10D? Not sure). He said he carried the older body specifically because it was quieter. When I popped off a few shots with my M8 the director looked over and said, con mucho sarcasm, "Guy, d'you think you could get a noisier camera?" This to someone using a Leica. I realise I'm getting OT here, but one of the reasons I went for the M8 was to be unobtrusive, and I'd read that the shutter, while not "whisper quiet", was pretty good. Nonsense. It's louder than my D200, and way louder than the older Canon body this guy was using. Admittedly it sounds very old-fashioned, and that does help put people at their ease, but I'd still rather it was quieter. So, to try to get back on topic, roll on Luigi's leather case, and I'll try to remember to report back what effect it has on the sound. Hmm, it's odd that you should say this. I find mine quite quiet, certainly much quieter than my 1DNIIn and 20D. If you click the link below, you will hear an M7 shutter, followed immediately by the M8 shutter sound. Both were taken under identical circumstances, at equal distance from the microphone. Whilst the M8 sound is certainly longer, it doesn't sound to be much louder http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/LeicaM8/Samples/Audio/m7-then-m8.mp3 Here is the visible wave: Incidentally, you may find this page amusing:) Shutter Sounds Sound and image courtesy dp review. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 13, 2007 Share #27 Posted September 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think one of the differences is the nature of the sound. I'd guess that my M8 and 5D are roughly as loud as one another - maybe the M8 is a tad louder - but the sounds are different. The M8 is a more aggresive metalic sound with more higher frequencies present, where as the 5D sound is more muffled. It's the re-cocking of the shutter that makes most of the difference IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometsoft Posted September 13, 2007 Share #28 Posted September 13, 2007 The 10D is very quiet. I gave mine to my daughter, so I can't compare it to the leica. I think that was one of the few things that people preferred it for over the 20D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gesper Posted September 13, 2007 Share #29 Posted September 13, 2007 If you click the link below, you will hear an M7 shutter, followed immediately by the M8 shutter sound. The initial click of the second one sounds way louder than the first one to me, even before the resetting of the shutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 13, 2007 Share #30 Posted September 13, 2007 The initial click of the second one sounds way louder than the first one to me, even before the resetting of the shutter. I've not listened to the two yet, but you can see from the waveforms that the M8 sound as recorded here has a greater amplitude and duration - ignoring the second part of the M8 waveform which is the shutter re-cock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gesper Posted September 13, 2007 Share #31 Posted September 13, 2007 It would be great if someone could run a test like this with and without the Luigi case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trs Posted September 13, 2007 Share #32 Posted September 13, 2007 Thanks Doug. That helps a lot. It seems that I just did not look hard enough. -tanka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted September 13, 2007 Share #33 Posted September 13, 2007 It would be great if someone could run a test like this with and without the Luigi case. But with all the different colours Luigi offers that would take an age! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie_O Posted September 13, 2007 Share #34 Posted September 13, 2007 But with all the different colours Luigi offers that would take an age! "Our tests showed that cognac brown was the quietest color, which was surprising, since cognac usually makes the testers much louder and affectionate." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdarter Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share #35 Posted September 13, 2007 I've not listened to the two yet, but you can see from the waveforms that the M8 sound as recorded here has a greater amplitude and duration - ignoring the second part of the M8 waveform which is the shutter re-cock. Hi Steve, The waveform does seem to indivate that the M8 is slightly louder, and definitely longer. I wonder how different it would look however, if the manual re-cocking of the M7's shutter curtain was included?? Interesting..............? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie_O Posted September 13, 2007 Share #36 Posted September 13, 2007 Hi Steve, The waveform does seem to indivate that the M8 is slightly louder, and definitely longer. I wonder how different it would look however, if the manual re-cocking of the M7's shutter curtain was included?? Interesting..............? That's an excellent point. Who doesn't immediately put thumb to film advance lever after a shot? Of course, it is optional on an M7/RD-1s/etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nboeck Posted September 13, 2007 Share #37 Posted September 13, 2007 my 5d sounded quieter to me too, but I agree that it may be the more drawn out/longer sound the M8 makes that makes it seem louder. I think one of the differences is the nature of the sound. I'd guess that my M8 and 5D are roughly as loud as one another - maybe the M8 is a tad louder - but the sounds are different. The M8 is a more aggresive metalic sound with more higher frequencies present, where as the 5D sound is more muffled. It's the re-cocking of the shutter that makes most of the difference IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted September 13, 2007 Share #38 Posted September 13, 2007 I found that my 5D was louder. Maybe they are not all the same. Anyway, my M8 is still too loud. My M6 is about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted September 13, 2007 Share #39 Posted September 13, 2007 My wife is quite loud but the quality of what she says is quite formidable:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nboeck Posted September 13, 2007 Share #40 Posted September 13, 2007 how does it feel compared to no no leather case but with a grip? I bought a grip for my M8 and it feels much easier to hold, but would rather get rid of the grip and buy one of his cases (your style, not the grip version). I love the way they look but also love not worrying about the camera falling out of my hands.... Hi, Having read the thread on 'Grips' from last week, I decided that I would buy a Luigi half case in the 'aged brown' colour. I ordered it on Monday afternoon, and it arrived in the UK this morning. It is, quite simply, a tour-de-force of leather craftsmanship. It is beautifully made, and the quality of materials is superb. The design and implementation of the 'hanging hatch' is perfect, and it works well. Despite not being the 'full grip' version, it makes the camera much, much easier to grip. [ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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