alainD Posted March 21, 2022 Share #1 Posted March 21, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm back into the S game with a S3 and a selection of lenses. My main intend is for portraiture and landscape photography. At the long end, I got the 100 and the 120 macro. I'm debating getting the 120 TS or the 180. I'm thinking 120TS would help for two things: stitching and "angled" focus plane. I've had some limited experience with TS lenses on Nikon, not with great success I have to admit... So, I tried to search for landscape pictures taken with the 120 TS on this forum and could not find many. Could any of you point me to some? Thanks in advance. Alain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frame-it Posted March 21, 2022 Share #2 Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) check with @xiaubauu2009 and @djmay Edited March 21, 2022 by frame-it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted March 21, 2022 Share #3 Posted March 21, 2022 I have both, I think the 180mm would be more useful.... john 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmknoble Posted March 21, 2022 Share #4 Posted March 21, 2022 I agree with @John McMaster the 180 would see more use. I have the Leica R 28 PC lens by Schneider and use it with the SL2-S and while it does not have tilt, the focal length is great for landscape. The 120 is 96mm and the tilt for landscape would be very small if focused near infinity. I think this lens has seen more use for product pictures close up. I’ve long wanted a 35mm tilt shift for the S system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted March 21, 2022 Share #5 Posted March 21, 2022 The problem with the 120TS is that it only focuses down to ~1m, so need to crop or have large subjects 😉 john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted March 21, 2022 Share #6 Posted March 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, davidmknoble said: I’ve long wanted a 35mm tilt shift for the S system. The Mamiya 645 50mm Shift lens does quite a good job. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alainD Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted March 21, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) thank you... Seems that not many people use the 120TS for landscape then... Alain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f22photographie Posted March 21, 2022 Share #8 Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) Hi, In recently purchased a used example of this lens from the Leica Store in Lisse, (Holland), as a demo model. Attached was my first long distance test shot, outdoors. Three images - centre shot first, then shifted both ways, processed in Lightroom, then uploaded into 'Affinity Photo' to make the images into a panorama. Hope this helps. Mike. P.S. Leica's Store Lisse still has a 120mm PC/TS demo in stock on eBay - item number 304381628347 ! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 21, 2022 by f22photographie 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330895-leica-120-ts-sample-pictures/?do=findComment&comment=4404743'>More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted March 21, 2022 Share #9 Posted March 21, 2022 Did you attach the camera or the lens to the tripod? john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f22photographie Posted March 21, 2022 Share #10 Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) The lens i.e. First image straight as normal, Second image shift the lens one direction, (up to 12mm shift), then unlock mechanism after taking image and then rotate the camera 90 degrees, (meaning the camera body is upside down), for the third image. I can't see how one could use the camera on the tripod for stitching, unless I've missed something ? Mike. 2nd image attached. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 21, 2022 by f22photographie 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330895-leica-120-ts-sample-pictures/?do=findComment&comment=4404880'>More sharing options...
alainD Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted March 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, f22photographie said: The lens i.e. First image straight as normal, Second image shift the lens one direction, (up to 12mm shift), then unlock mechanism after taking image and then rotate the camera 90 degrees, (meaning the camera body is upside down), for the third image. Thank you for the explanation! question: why rotate the camera instead of shifting the lens in the other direction? Alain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f22photographie Posted March 22, 2022 Share #12 Posted March 22, 2022 Hi Alain, In some ways this wonderful lens can be described as over-engineered. However, unlike Leica's 28mm PC-Super-Angulon-R for 35mm, whereby the lens shifting ring can be moved either side of the zero setting, the lens shifting ring on the 120mm PC TS lens only moves in one direction from the zero setting, hence why you have to turn the body upside down after unlocking the mechanism to take the third image for panoramas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmknoble Posted March 22, 2022 Share #13 Posted March 22, 2022 @f22photographie, that makes sense. I have the 28mm PC lens and have shot several pan’s using left and right shifting. Only going in one direction makes sense to have to turn it upside down…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted March 22, 2022 Share #14 Posted March 22, 2022 7 hours ago, f22photographie said: hence why you have to turn the body upside down after unlocking the mechanism to take the third image for panoramas. Does the camera flip the Live View image or does it shown the world as being upside down..?! 😵 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted March 22, 2022 Share #15 Posted March 22, 2022 19 hours ago, f22photographie said: The lens i.e. First image straight as normal, Second image shift the lens one direction, (up to 12mm shift), then unlock mechanism after taking image and then rotate the camera 90 degrees, (meaning the camera body is upside down), for the third image. I can't see how one could use the camera on the tripod for stitching, unless I've missed something ? Thanks, just use the same system with the lens shifted left/right - that is how lenses without a tripod mount (e.g. Mamiya 50mm shift) have to work. Once you are up to 120mm on the S I am not sure what difference you would see between your shifted image and just panning the camera slightly... john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f22photographie Posted March 22, 2022 Share #16 Posted March 22, 2022 Hi, First of all a reply to Sarnian - I am using an earlier 'S' model, the S-E, (aka S006), which doesn't have 'live view', only an optical viewfinder. However, on the SE, I can confirm that the image is still the right way up when viewed through the optical viewfinder when the camera is turned upside down, and ditto, when the image is being reviewed on the back screen. A quick snap taken this afternoon from the front garden duly attached as confirmation. Reply to John - in theory to make a proper job of a panorama, one should have a dedicated panorama head, find nodal points etc v. a shift in parallel if not using this method. You are probably correct on a 120mm focal length one might not notice much difference panning the camera slightly. At the price I paid I thought it was well worth a punt and once you get the hang of it it is quite quick in operation, and to quote the Ronseal advert, 'it does what is says on the tin' ! Regards, Mike. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330895-leica-120-ts-sample-pictures/?do=findComment&comment=4405519'>More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted March 22, 2022 Share #17 Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, f22photographie said: At the price I paid I thought it was well worth a punt and once you get the hang of it it is quite quick in operation, and to quote the Ronseal advert, 'it does what is says on the tin' ! ...and you'll never have any AF motor failure issues! 😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted March 22, 2022 Share #18 Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, f22photographie said: Hi, First of all a reply to Sarnian - I am using an earlier 'S' model, the S-E, (aka S006), which doesn't have 'live view', only an optical viewfinder. However, on the SE, I can confirm that the image is still the right way up when viewed through the optical viewfinder when the camera is turned upside down, and ditto, when the image is being reviewed on the back screen. A quick snap taken this afternoon from the front garden duly attached as confirmation. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Ah yes, but the information (ISO, etc) is upside down so it's not that clever! ☺️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnian Posted March 22, 2022 Share #19 Posted March 22, 2022 4 hours ago, f22photographie said: I am using an earlier 'S' model, the S-E, (aka S006) A-ha. I’ve finally found another S-E user! Is it that there weren’t many made or do people genuinely prefer the all-black 006? After getting my 007 I’ve put my sensor-replaced S-E up for sale but nobody seems interested in it. Strange times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted March 23, 2022 Share #20 Posted March 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Sarnian said: Ah yes, but the information (ISO, etc) is upside down so it's not that clever! ☺️ When stitching, none of those things would be changed during shooting. john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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