Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Share #1  Posted March 7, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Good morning all . I want to buy this Leica Compur Rim Set serial 61XX , according with leica camera forum first batch made 600 (1926-1929) starting with serial 5701 and ending at 6300 ! But leica camera forum says that first batch where all dial set not rim set. And another question is ...does not write anything in front of the lens , like other Leica Compur such as : "F.Deckel Munchen" "Compur". And the arming lever is different like other Leica Compur Front lens ring is also different like the dial compur Leica. So what kind of Leica Compur is and what is the value! Thank you and stay safe! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396319'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 7, 2022 Posted March 7, 2022 Hi Film Hunter, Take a look here Leica Compur Need info and help , strange outfit. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted March 7, 2022 Share #2 Â Posted March 7, 2022 Welcome to the forum. You will certainly get information about the camera, but be aware that the forum does not do valuations. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #3  Posted March 7, 2022 Ok . Thank you so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted March 7, 2022 Share #4 Â Posted March 7, 2022 other pictures on the www look different, Leitz would not show the opening-ring on front of the Compur shutter and the red dot on the aperture scale does not look right either. post some other pics from top plate to show release button and film clock. I think parts are put together, we had such cameras here from time to time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #5  Posted March 7, 2022 Yes there are some strange things here, but serial number looks ok to me and also the lens look to be ok and it looks like the lens on the compur dial set Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396380'>More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #6  Posted March 7, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396381'>More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #7  Posted March 7, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396382'>More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #8  Posted March 7, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396385'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted March 7, 2022 Share #9 Â Posted March 7, 2022 check this pictures for comparison, it looks different https://www.meister-camera.com/produkt/leica-ring-compur/ I had a Retina in my list with serial-number of the Compur 2330623 build appr. 1935 although some lists on the www give different years. Sorry I still have doubts and think it's a kind of marriage. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nf3996 Posted March 7, 2022 Share #10 Â Posted March 7, 2022 I see the aperture scale on the lens uses the 'international' scale from 5.6 up to 22, not the 'continental' scale, eg. 6.3, 9, 12.5 etc. Is the Compur part perhaps a later replacement for the orignial Compur? Alan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #11 Â Posted March 7, 2022 Had no idea , the lens looks genuine to me and it looks the same as the lens from Leica Compur dial set. I already bought this camera I paid 3000 euro , hope I did not make the biggest mistake in my life Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted March 7, 2022 Share #12  Posted March 7, 2022 look here too https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327690-procedure/#comments  1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 7, 2022 Share #13  Posted March 7, 2022 Compur serial numbers and dates are here: http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Compur_serial_numbers and suggest that this one is from 1932/3 but the body appears to be earlier, from 1926/9. It would be worth checking the Lens's serial number and dating it too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 7, 2022 Share #14  Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) What you have is a genuine Leica B fitted with a later Compur shutter and a Leitz Elmar lens. This camera would have been issued with a dial set shutter originally. This shutter is a rim set example and it has chrome trim rather than the nickel trim which was on both dial set and rim set Compur B shutters. See photos below, courtesy of Leitz Auction Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! According to Jim Lager the camera serial number ranges are 5701 to 13163 for dial set and 13154 to 51715 for rim set. You can provide the lens serial number if it has one, but I would suspect that it does not have one. Deckel Compur shutter serial numbers are a nightmare to follow and I have found no real consistency in the many that I have, both dial set and rim set, covering quite of number of camera different makes. I have seen lists, but none of them match what is on the shutters which I have, both dial set and rim set. I have a comprehensive book on Compur shutters written in German by Hartmut Thiele, but that does not provide any real answers. William  Edited March 7, 2022 by willeica 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! According to Jim Lager the camera serial number ranges are 5701 to 13163 for dial set and 13154 to 51715 for rim set. You can provide the lens serial number if it has one, but I would suspect that it does not have one. Deckel Compur shutter serial numbers are a nightmare to follow and I have found no real consistency in the many that I have, both dial set and rim set, covering quite of number of camera different makes. I have seen lists, but none of them match what is on the shutters which I have, both dial set and rim set. I have a comprehensive book on Compur shutters written in German by Hartmut Thiele, but that does not provide any real answers. William  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396442'>More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted March 7, 2022 Share #15  Posted March 7, 2022 Just for illustration  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396447'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted March 7, 2022 Share #16 Â Posted March 7, 2022 so if it's a Leitz-Umbau (repair, conversion, upgrade) the price-tag looks accepable to me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzy Posted March 7, 2022 Share #17 Â Posted March 7, 2022 Camera looks genuine to me, except Compur shutter, must have been replaced, this is a reason why ii is chromed, aperture 22 and some other features. Optics seem to be original dial set, Elmar engravings are inside, on rim set were outside. Photo of the bottom without bottom cover shows construction typical for Compur, was different than IA. With some luck you might be able to get dial Compur shutter with appropriate size and have almost fully original camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share #18 Â Posted March 7, 2022 Thank you all , this is an amazing forum , i think I will keep it as or maybe I will try to find a compur , i did not know what to do for the moment , but I'm amazed that I found a real leica Compur for a decent price and with a low serial number , first batch of 600 . I also e-mailed Leica for some info and they said that for the moment your database is under maintenance. Have a nice day all ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG Posted March 8, 2022 Share #19  Posted March 8, 2022 I would keep the camera just as it is, any repairs or upgrades are part of it's unique history and it is how it was used and loved back in it's day. In any really mature genre of collecting the original repairs and patina on the collectibles ad to it's value and history.  I would feel great just having it work well and be usable as is. This historical and rare camera has much more chance of being actually worth something than the dump-truck loads of later Leica cameras being traded at silly prices the last several years.  1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Film Hunter Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share #20  Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) Ben G , i m thinking to do the same, and I'm glad that I bought this Leica and I think I done well paying 3000 euro , never had a Leica Compur before .  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 8, 2022 by Film Hunter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330493-leica-compur-need-info-and-help-strange-outfit/?do=findComment&comment=4396996'>More sharing options...
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