stefanusj Posted January 30, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 30, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 6 minutes ago, Photoworks said: We still have that.. I think they still need to implement few features in this camera. Bluetooth and Wifi are not totally integrated, GPS functionality, Fotos app. I have been putting the M11 true my numerous tests, I have been enjoying it with the new Visoflex much more. I was already very happy with the images of the M10-R and apart from the user experience the images of the M11 are very similar. If you are looking for image quality you don't need an upgrade from M10-R they have not done a processor upgrade in the past for a P, probably reserved to M12, what is probably ready in 5 years a new sensor capable of quicker readout would be great, like the Nikon D9, but I am very happy in what we have here, the times that this becomes a problem are so minimal and on par with many high end cameras. This is coming from someone that works on movies and TV sets often and silent shutter is required. Be happy with what you have. USE the camera to max ! correction... Nikon Z9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 Hi stefanusj, Take a look here What feature(s) have Leica kept back for the M11-P?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Adam Bonn Posted January 30, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Photoworks said: We still have that.. I think they still need to implement few features in this camera. Bluetooth and Wifi are not totally integrated, GPS functionality, Fotos app. I have been putting the M11 true my numerous tests, I have been enjoying it with the new Visoflex much more. I was already very happy with the images of the M10-R and apart from the user experience the images of the M11 are very similar. If you are looking for image quality you don't need an upgrade from M10-R they have not done a processor upgrade in the past for a P, probably reserved to M12, what is probably ready in 5 years a new sensor capable of quicker readout would be great, like the Nikon D9, but I am very happy in what we have here, the times that this becomes a problem are so minimal and on par with many high end cameras. This is coming from someone that works on movies and TV sets often and silent shutter is required. Be happy with what you have. USE the camera to max ! I can't imagine we'll see those sort of upgrades in a Mx P type upgrade, it'll be no red dot, classic script on the top plate and a little addition here and there... Just like all the other previous Mx P models. Hopefully what you want will come in a FM updates are on the next model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 30, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, stefanusj said: correction... Nikon Z9 yes, thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted January 30, 2022 Share #24 Posted January 30, 2022 21 hours ago, darylgo said: Focus confirmation, either via sound or a visual spot in the viewfinder. Indication in the viewfinder (rangefinder) of +/- exposure scale. The option to turn off evf stabilization, it gives a false indication of my ability to handhold a 60mp sensor camera. An additional menu feature to turn off those menu features I never use. The ability to move menu items up/down and create a hierarchy. The ability to customize all menu items on a computer screen via the usb-c cable. The eyepiece attachment size needs standardizing, many attachments selling new need an adapter to work on the M10 and M11. That's not an M11 wishlist, that's a more of a FW wishlist with a few wishes for a complete new camera. My guess is that we will not se a M11-P but an M11-S with 24 MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinot Posted January 30, 2022 Share #25 Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 4:49 PM, colint544 said: I think we can safely guess that when the M11-P arrives in a couple of years, it will very likely have that nice script engraved on the top plate. But what else might it have, to keep it fresh for a while longer? I would love to see red frame lines as an option to white ones on the P-model. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted January 30, 2022 Share #26 Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Brightness sensor moved from the front of the top plate to the back like a normal camera. 🙏 Edited January 30, 2022 by raizans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted January 30, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 30, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) No Canadian (red) dot, engraved script on top plate and a raw RGB histogram?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted January 30, 2022 Share #28 Posted January 30, 2022 Aside from the standard cosmetic upgrades: 128gb internal storage data port upgraded to Thunderbolt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2022 Share #29 Posted February 19, 2022 ... it's already very likely that they will consider a M11-R with 100MP (based on the new Sony sensor generation coming out in 2022-23). Wifi standards are also progressing, could upgrade that component in M11-P. Agree on silver/black symmetrical options - don't know if that would mean black brass or silver aluminum for M11-P. M11-S is definitely a possibility, esp. considering all the feedback about 60MP without IBIS. At some point though the question becomes if M11-S would be sufficiently different from M10? I am personally mostly looking forward to the M11-M 🙂 This could be my first monochrome. Given the crazy ISO performance of the M models, this halfway solves all of the IBIS discussions and concerns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted February 19, 2022 Share #30 Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Quote ... it's already very likely that they will consider a M11-R with 100MP... With all the moaning and complaining about a 60mp sensor, 100mp would send some people over the edge. But three levels of resolution - 100mp, 50mp and 25mp - would be nice. As for IBIS, I have read that there is just not enough room in the camera body for the hardware required. Not if we want to keep the M camera to its present size. Doing otherwise would be a huge mistake in my view. Video? No, thanks. Our phones can make video. The M camera's reason for being is rangefinder based still photography. Remain totally focused on that purpose with no distractions. The M camera ethos is the photographic road less traveled; let's stay the course. The M11 Monochrom? That camera will be an absolute monster - we're talking Godzilla here. 😃 Edited February 19, 2022 by Herr Barnack 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted February 19, 2022 Share #31 Posted February 19, 2022 I agree that we most likely will not see an M11R. The next jump in megapixels will come with the next version of the Maestro processor which for the M will be installed in the M12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted February 23, 2022 Share #32 Posted February 23, 2022 On 2/19/2022 at 8:09 AM, Kwesi said: I agree that we most likely will not see an M11R. The next jump in megapixels will come with the next version of the Maestro processor which for the M will be installed in the M12. They didn't ask me, but I would replace the R with the EVF version so that both optical and EVF models could share the same generation bodies: M11 (optical rangefinder) M11-P & Safari (optical rangefinder) M11-D (optical rangefinder) M11-E (EVF) M11 Black Paint (optical rangefinder) M12 (add IBIS and start cycle over) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 4, 2022 Share #33 Posted March 4, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 12:12 AM, hdmesa said: They didn't ask me, but I would replace the R with the EVF version so that both optical and EVF models could share the same generation bodies: M11 (optical rangefinder) M11-P & Safari (optical rangefinder) M11-D (optical rangefinder) M11-E (EVF) M11 Black Paint (optical rangefinder) M12 (add IBIS and start cycle over) M11 Monochrom? I wouldn’t anticipate an EVF version until the M12. But Leica can surprise. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted March 4, 2022 Share #34 Posted March 4, 2022 51 minutes ago, Jeff S said: M11 Monochrom? I wouldn’t anticipate an EVF version until the M12. But Leica can surprise. Jeff I was already reminded about the Monochrom from the same post I made on another forum. In my defense, it's a lot to remember 😂 An M11-EVF could replace the M10-R's position in the lineup, although the M10-R may have been a unique release. But I think you're right about not having an EVF until the M12. My hope is that if the EVF version can be integrated into the lineup without losing the optical finder version. But I fear the M12 will be EVF-only and we will never have another optical rangefinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 4, 2022 Share #35 Posted March 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, hdmesa said: My hope is that if the EVF version can be integrated into the lineup without losing the optical finder version. But I fear the M12 will be EVF-only and we will never have another optical rangefinder. As I wrote… Plus I recall that Stefan Daniel once said that the M will stay true to an RF. We shall see. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted March 16, 2022 Share #36 Posted March 16, 2022 If they think you'll buy both they will make both. AN EVF and RF body. M's have had a revival and there's no other OVF camera like it on the market. The more that other manufacturers move to EVF's the more there will be a place for a camera like the M. At the same time people are adapting EVF cameras to M lenses. Leica would like a piece of that market, I'm sure. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted March 16, 2022 Share #37 Posted March 16, 2022 Can we have a silver chrome M-10R P first? 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 16, 2022 Share #38 Posted March 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, FlashGordonPhotography said: If they think you'll buy both they will make both. AN EVF and RF body. M's have had a revival and there's no other OVF camera like it on the market. The more that other manufacturers move to EVF's the more there will be a place for a camera like the M. At the same time people are adapting EVF cameras to M lenses. Leica would like a piece of that market, I'm sure. Gordon I also would anticipate two different lines of M (at least), if an EVF model can be produced. But as far as the customer base, I think one interesting factor will be the price of entry, and whether the M ‘revival’ as you call it, will continue now that new digital Ms have rapidly jumped in recent years from about $6.5k at intro to $9k, and with more similarly expensive fast APO M lenses. Leica knows its existing customers well, but I wonder whether similar market pricing for all M lines would broaden the customer base. Or whether Leica thinks existing customers will just double up and continue to buy the next latest iteration(s) at the same pace. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now