Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 6, 2007 Share #1 Posted September 6, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well I'm on a event shoot in Florida and at the end of the night i need to take the whole day shoot and make a DVD to be played in the guests room, so they can see the images of the day. well for me what i have been doing is shooting DNG and Jpg and the first day i tried the basic setting, was not happy with the results so i switched to DNG-Jpeg Fine and lowered the compression to 6 mp and than bumped the sharpness up a stop in the menu. Now for this show when i use on camera flash been setting it for daylight than if i have the stage lights i switch to tungsten , really not bad in practice and getting much better results than i though i would. Now the first day i redid the first day show with processing the DNG files just because basic is not so hot here. so lately the day shooting ihave found the time to actually process and honestly the damn files look really similar in color and such so yes i am actually impressed with the jpeg fine and for this purpose it is working out. Anyway at night I don't have time to process. All i can do is download the cards and in Bridge pullup the jpegs and just do a quick edit ,remove the garbage shots and than run a quick action on sizing than bring them into Iphoto in which i do a slideshow presentation than export that into IDVD , okay this takes longer than paint drying. okay reason i use Iphoto is because i use transitions on the slides and there is no random transition setting in IDVD which really is making me mad , because this could go a lot faster and just use IDVD program and forget iphoto which is a nice little program but far from a professional software package but it works Anyway back to jpegs if you handle your color correctly it seems to do a nice job , compression is a little high for my taste and not sure i would get into any serious printing but for electronic media it works . Okay that just came from a huge RAW shooter . But no i will never just shoot jpegs i have DNG's of the whole shoot and will process later and deliver to client. Now i have 200 people asking me for DVD's at 2.5 hours each to make , yea right not happening. LOL I could just dupe them which i may send out for . Burning 200 disks on a new laptop is something i would rather not put the wear on. There is a time when you just write the check. LOL Vendor please. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnwolf Posted September 6, 2007 Share #2 Posted September 6, 2007 Guy, I thought you were a Lightroom user. If so, did you consider using it for this? You can create the slideshow there and export it to the desired dimensions as a pdf. Seems simpler, more direct, and probably a much smaller file for less disk write time. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 6, 2007 Share #3 Posted September 6, 2007 Guy--I hope you're getting paid a lot for this. It sounds like a huge pain in the ass to me. Instead of burning all the CDs, couldn't you get the hotel to put a slide show on their closed circuit for the guests? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted September 6, 2007 Share #4 Posted September 6, 2007 Don't worry about Guy getting paid -- he's a very good businessman! (But yes, burning discs is worse than watching paint dry.) , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 6, 2007 Share #5 Posted September 6, 2007 Guy, I thought you were a Lightroom user. If so, did you consider using it for this? You can create the slideshow there and export it to the desired dimensions as a pdf. Seems simpler, more direct, and probably a much smaller file for less disk write time. John A pdf will not play on a guest room DVD player, whereas an iDVD will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 6, 2007 Share #6 Posted September 6, 2007 Guy, I shot a work event a while ago, my approach was to upload the suitably reduced jpegs to flickr, into a set marked private. Flickr then allows you to create a 'guest pass' URL which allows non-flickr users to view a nominated set - even if it's private. You get unlimited uploads with a 'pro' account, which costs around $25 per year as I recall. This way you can avoid having to burn any DVD's at all, and the guests can download the low res copies if they like. You can effectively use it as an online catalog for the high-res stuff. The guest pass can be expired whenever you like - at the end of the event for example. David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted September 6, 2007 Share #7 Posted September 6, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) A pdf will not play on a guest room DVD player, whereas an iDVD will. Of course. I need to get away from the computer more. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
c6gowin Posted September 6, 2007 Share #8 Posted September 6, 2007 The only problem I have with shooting DNG + JPG fine is that it takes longer to write to the card. However, it is not a big enough problem for me to give up the convenience of getting both file formats without any extra effort on my part. I know shooting DNG + JPG also takes more memory, but I don't consider that a problem since SD cards are so cheap. Mark Gowin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 6, 2007 Share #9 Posted September 6, 2007 Well my issue is there not just images they want. What i have been doing is making a slide show with movement in the images and transitions like fade to black , spin and such . so they look like a movie ( including music) than i export that to IDVD and burn a DVD to run on the Hotels house DVD player so it just automatically is running on channel 2 in the rooms. Sorry if i explained that wrong. But now the big cheeses are really liking the idea of giving each person a DVD of the whole show .So at the end i will create a DVD and make 200 copies at a vendor that can dupe them and add there logo to the DVD skin, than charge accordingly But little OT here offering clients more than hire you for can bring in extra revenue. it's a service industry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 6, 2007 Share #10 Posted September 6, 2007 Yes--I do the same thing on Windows with something called ProShow Creator (not that there aren't a billion ways to do this, but Pro Show actually is colour managed and the whole kit and kaboodle, without pulling up premiere). Guilty secret: I've been shooting DNG and JPEG for awhile now on the M8 (used to be because none of my proofing software understood DNG--now it's because I can quickly do stuff with the JPEGs ) LOL!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 7, 2007 Share #11 Posted September 7, 2007 Actually there not bad at all IF and IF you control the WB on them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted September 7, 2007 Share #12 Posted September 7, 2007 iPhoto to iDVD is a bit of a struggle. I know it might rile some but getting something to darwine or bootcamp Photostory three might save you a load of dramas and cut ti the chase. Three is a darn sight better than the bundled vista one over at eh darkside of operating systems. But iPhoto and iDvd...gee that is really something else. Roll on the iPod set I guess. Playtime:( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 7, 2007 Share #13 Posted September 7, 2007 Slower than anything i have seen , let me tell you. I'm still working at 1 am. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted September 7, 2007 Share #14 Posted September 7, 2007 Gee, I feel for you. You want to get back to something that just works without fuss. And the "transitions" and "Ken Burns Effect" in photostory3 make any sort of trash look good... Five minutes is long enough to spend on getting any slide show with music to DVD palyer. I know, Ive seen someones Hell in organising images in latest Mac offerings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 7, 2007 Share #15 Posted September 7, 2007 ,,,,,,sometimes a PC has more appropriate stuff, but expensive http://www.desktopauthor.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted September 7, 2007 Share #16 Posted September 7, 2007 A heretical question: How may of you would actually be capable of seeing the difference between an A4 printed from a JPG and one from a DNG, in a blind test? That is, if you didn't know beforehand which was which? The old man from the Age of Brovira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 7, 2007 Share #17 Posted September 7, 2007 Probably more than could spot the difference between a shot taken with a Leica or a Canon or Nikon <grin> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 7, 2007 Share #18 Posted September 7, 2007 A heretical question: How may of you would actually be capable of seeing the difference between an A4 printed from a JPG and one from a DNG, in a blind test? That is, if you didn't know beforehand which was which? The old man from the Age of Brovira ... good question... weeks ago I made a test, A4 color HP PSC 1510 All in One - Vivera photo ink with : - DNG - print in LR - JPG fine direct from M8 - print in LR - JPG "high quality" from DNG-Lightroom ---> PSD-PS--->JPG print in PS I had the impression that ...... but I MADE the test, was biased And hate to throw ink & paper for these tests... even if many times I ask myself some "what if ?...." ; being not a pro, I simply forgot jpg except for the posts in this forum... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted September 7, 2007 Share #19 Posted September 7, 2007 But Guy, When do we get an up-date from Leica with a better jpg quality out of the camera? What I think is relevant and the 'morale' here is that good jpg's out of the camera is a good thing. The key word is 'speed'. When will we get it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted September 7, 2007 Share #20 Posted September 7, 2007 ... good question... weeks ago I made a test, A4 color HP PSC 1510 All in One - Vivera photo ink with : - DNG - print in LR - JPG fine direct from M8 - print in LR - JPG "high quality" from DNG-Lightroom ---> PSD-PS--->JPG print in PS I had the impression that ...... but I MADE the test, was biased Exactly. It was not a blind test. This is why clinical tests of new drugs have to be done blind, and double blind. You must not give the placebo effect a chance. I suspect there's lots of placebo effect here ... Of course I do not doubt that you will see a difference if you print to 2x3 feet and hand the observer a magnifier. But how relevant would such a test be? After all, if this doesn't work, you can print to 2x3 meters instead ... The old man from the Age of Tri-X and Brovira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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