Just got my m-p

[activeuk]

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Love it so far should have a leica 28mm elmarit  coming next couple of days 

What would  be the best setting  for street be  b/w hp5 400 /  f11 or f8 / 500s   ?

[a.noctilux]

Welcome to the best Leica M 😉...(with some others of course).

Please note that your MP is MP not m-p

 

Take time to enjoy and learn the behavior of your MP + lens + film in use.

There is no best setting for street that I can think of.

The two settings can be fine (or not), experiences will tell you 🤞.

[frame-it]

1 hour ago, activeuk said:

What would  be the best setting  for street be  b/w hp5 400 /  f11 or f8 / 500s   ?

also depends on the sunlight

[shirubadanieru]

If shooting on a sunny day you can use the following settings, that's what I do at least.

More than anything, I suggest overexposing 1 stop by default to always avoid underexposure. If you are shooting a ISO 400 film, just shoot it as if it were a ISO 200 film (set the ISO dial to 200 in the back). 

Then, use the Sunny 16 rule concept and set the camera as below:

• Shutter Speed: 1/500 (I leave it at 1/500 for most part and just move the aperture as below)
• If on bright areas: F11
• If on high contrast areas: F5.6 (+2 stops)
• If under shade: F2.8 (+4 stops)

The above cover most scenes, so just remember F11 --> F5.6 --> F2.8 and that's it.

• PS: If under strong shade it's around +6 stops difference, so just set it at 1/125 F2.8
• PS2: If indoors, it's around +10 stops difference

Been shooting like this, never underexposed a shot. Hope it helps! 

[activeuk]

Ok got my 28mm lens come today set it to f11 and then zone foucs to 4 feet to infinate

when i look in the view finder its all out of foucs unless i have 4 feet away from the target test is this normal and just take it that if i took a pic it would be roughy in foucs?

[shirubadanieru]

31 minutes ago, activeuk said:

Ok got my 28mm lens come today set it to f11 and then zone foucs to 4 feet to infinate

when i look in the view finder its all out of foucs unless i have 4 feet away from the target test is this normal and just take it that if i took a pic it would be roughy in foucs?

Look at the distance scale, if it’s F11 and it’s within the distance scale then it will be ok : ) 

[ianman]

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2 hours ago, activeuk said:

when i look in the view finder its all out of foucs

What is all out of focus in the viewfinder? Nothing should be out of focus, it’s not an SLR!

[armadsen]

This is a weird thread to me. Why would you buy an (expensive!) rangefinder only to always use zone focusing? Same question about always using Sunny 16. Both have their place in certain shooting situations of course, but the MP has tools to help you focus and expose accurately, and I think you should learn how to use them.

[a.noctilux]

Indeed, weird thread.

@activeuk

I think that you know your MP (please confirm it's Leica MP) has a lightmeter built-in,

and of course a rangefinder to precise focussing.

[Stevejack]

3 hours ago, activeuk said:

Ok got my 28mm lens come today set it to f11 and then zone foucs to 4 feet to infinate

when i look in the view finder its all out of foucs unless i have 4 feet away from the target test is this normal and just take it that if i took a pic it would be roughy in foucs?

If I'm understanding you correctly - you're saying that when you look through the rangefinder window the objects in the patch are out of focus, yeah? 

If you think of the patch as focusing at f/1.4 for example, it's designed so you'll be able to nail focus on your intended subject at any aperture and completely ignores depth of field. The distance scale on your lens will let you know what is actually in "acceptable" focus. So if it's telling you that 4m to infinity is in focus, it's letting you know that objects within that range will have an acceptable level of sharpness - they won't necessarily be tack sharp. 

If you want a specific object to be tack sharp, then you'll need to focus on it using the patch in the rangefinder and then set your aperture for the effect you want (shallow vs deep DOF). If you're zone focusing, you set your aperture and then looking at the distance scale you can work out roughly where subjects need to be (distance-wise) in order for them to be reasonably sharp in your final image. Hope this all makes sense. 

[250swb]

10 hours ago, activeuk said:

Ok got my 28mm lens come today set it to f11 and then zone foucs to 4 feet to infinate

when i look in the view finder its all out of foucs unless i have 4 feet away from the target test is this normal and just take it that if i took a pic it would be roughy in foucs?

Maybe read the manual that came with the camera.

[CosmoM3]

Confusing thread...

OP bought a Leica "M-P" but we'll assume it's the "MP".

The viewfinder is "all out of focus" when you zone focus at f/11 (between 4ft to Infinite) - I'm going to assume that your rangefinder patch is not lined up when you set your lens that way. This is fine as you're not going to see what the lens sees.

This is a rangefinder, not a SLR. 

Congrats on spending the money on a MP, but it would help to learn to use your tool.

[abphoto]

Thats when you learn to trust DoF scales. I am looking at my 24 2.8 and at F/11 I would have everything from 3ft to infinity should be relatively sharp. With about 6 ft appearing to be the really sharp spot when looking through the rangefinder. I know though from experience of using DoF scales that everything from 3ft-infinitely will be sharp. 

[Ouroboros]

On 12/23/2021 at 8:39 AM, 250swb said:

Maybe read the manual that came with the camera.

I think the manual is also likely to be out of focus.