Summarit M 90mm with Macro Adapter?

[augustwest100]

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Hi all,

I have a fairly specific question about Macro options on the SL system. Currently using the Sigma 105 Macro. Love the lens, hate the focus by wire.

I happen to have a 90mm Summarit M and was wondering if anyone has ever used the macro close focus adapter on this lens for macro photography.  I'm sure the Macro Elmar would work better with the macro adapter, but I don't have that lens, so was wondering if I adapted my Summarit to the SL using the M-L adapter in conjunction with the Macro adapter M. 

Would be interested in anyone's experiences with such a combo either on the SL or I suppose on the M bodies. Thanks!

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[lct]

If you mean the current macro-adapter-M (sans goggles) it can work with any 90mm M lens including Summarit 90/2.4 on any camera accepting M mount lenses including M bodies in LV mode or adapted SL, CL, etc. But such combo won't focus closer than 40cm or farther than 60cm more or less. A 90/4 macro would allow to focus at infinity in collapsed position.

[augustwest100]

Ah, I understand. The added benefit of the Macro Elmar is that it can go from macro to infinity, based on the settings on the adapter and on the lens. Thanks for that information. It is helpful!

[lct]

2 minutes ago, augustwest100 said:

Ah, I understand. The added benefit of the Macro Elmar is that it can go from macro to infinity, based on the settings on the adapter and on the lens. Thanks for that information. It is helpful!

Yes it works only for closeups in extended position but when you collapse it it can focus from 0.8m to infinity as if there were no macro adapter attached to the bofy. DoF markings of the lens can be used then but there are none on the macro adapter per se.

[augustwest100]

Would the same be true of the summarit with one of those third party m to l adapters that can extend outward by rotating. In other words, when the adapter is fully extended the summarit would be macro and when the adapter is  fully contracted, you get infinity focus?

[lct]

7 hours ago, augustwest100 said:

Would the same be true of the summarit with one of those third party m to l adapters that can extend outward by rotating. In other words, when the adapter is fully extended the summarit would be macro and when the adapter is  fully contracted, you get infinity focus?

I have no experience with those adapters but i have a similar one on my Sony A7 cameras, a Voigtlander VM-E adapter with helicoid ramp. It allows to focus M lenses (including 90/2.4) at infinity in retracted position and reduce their MFD by 20cm more or less in expanded one. I will check if you are interested but i guess a 90/2.4 Summarit can focus from infinity to about 0.7m then. Rather proxy than macro photo but very useful indeed.

[Photoworks]

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10 hours ago, augustwest100 said:

Would the same be true of the summarit with one of those third party m to l adapters that can extend outward by rotating. In other words, when the adapter is fully extended the summarit would be macro and when the adapter is  fully contracted, you get infinity focus?

Nope. the adapter only comes out a little. if the lens minimum focus is 1m you can then focus about 50cm

for any macro M lenses you will need the macro M adapter.
the Summarit is a decent lens, but the optics are not optimized for macro. you probably will find that the sigma lens is sharpen and cleaner.

the M adapter macro has6bit coding for the 90mm lens, but you can still use it with other lenses no problem. You can even add more macro adapters for more reach 

[augustwest100]

45 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

Nope. the adapter only comes out a little. if the lens minimum focus is 1m you can then focus about 50cm

for any macro M lenses you will need the macro M adapter.
the Summarit is a decent lens, but the optics are not optimized for macro. you probably will find that the sigma lens is sharpen and cleaner.

the M adapter macro has6bit coding for the 90mm lens, but you can still use it with other lenses no problem. You can even add more macro adapters for more reach 

Thanks for the info. This may be a weird question, but if you put a macro adapter M on an M to L adapter and attach to the SL system, do you still get infinity focus in the collapsed position?

[Photoworks]

14 minutes ago, augustwest100 said:

Thanks for the info. This may be a weird question, but if you put a macro adapter M on an M to L adapter and attach to the SL system, do you still get infinity focus in the collapsed position?

probably only with 90mm M macro lens

The macro adapter is only for macro photography, there is no range of focus for normal use.

If you just want tot get closer a little bit the 3rd party adapters are the best option. keep in mind you will loose all 6bit corrections and functions with this adapter.