M.Hilo Posted December 20, 2021 Share #41  Posted December 20, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Aryel, I hope those masks are okay. Kienzle is a very special company, but I was a little disappointed with their masks for the Focomat IIc. The black paint came off quite easily. Still, they do make the right things. Like the masks that allow to include borders. In that sense they continued what Leitz did: all Leitz 135mm masks for the Focomat Ic and the Valoy II included a bit of the border. Michael   1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ornello Posted December 20, 2021 Share #42  Posted December 20, 2021 12 hours ago, M.Hilo said: Aryel, I hope those masks are okay. Kienzle is a very special company, but I was a little disappointed with their masks for the Focomat IIc. The black paint came off quite easily. Still, they do make the right things. Like the masks that allow to include borders. In that sense they continued what Leitz did: all Leitz 135mm masks for the Focomat Ic and the Valoy II included a bit of the border. Michael   If they did, it was most likely to account for the image area of wide-angle lenses, which may send light up around the edges slightly more than normal lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #43  Posted December 21, 2021 20 hours ago, M.Hilo said: Aryel, I hope those masks are okay. Kienzle is a very special company, but I was a little disappointed with their masks for the Focomat IIc. The black paint came off quite easily. Still, they do make the right things. Like the masks that allow to include borders. In that sense they continued what Leitz did: all Leitz 135mm masks for the Focomat Ic and the Valoy II included a bit of the border. Michael   Hi, They just arrived. Looking good, will try out in the coming days and update.  For these ones, they charged me a bit extra for the custom sizes (26x38 and 57x57). Thanks a lot to everyone for the good advices! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #44  Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) My first trial 😊. I went with the speed easel and the metal bar in the enlarger. The bars aren’t moving straight anymore. This is why some of the borders vary in sizes. This photo was taken with a 35mm and the image touches the sprocket in some places. I will switch to the easel next round  should be easier (I think). Still quite like the way it came out! Thanks a lot everyone! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M2 or M3, summicron 35 v1, rollei retro 400s in rodinal (1+50). Scan of a print on ilford mgfb.  Merry Christmas to everyone 🎉 Edited December 24, 2021 by Aryel 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M2 or M3, summicron 35 v1, rollei retro 400s in rodinal (1+50). Scan of a print on ilford mgfb.  Merry Christmas to everyone 🎉 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326504-negative-carriers-size-for-black-borders/?do=findComment&comment=4338012'>More sharing options...
M.Hilo Posted December 24, 2021 Share #45 Â Posted December 24, 2021 Nice first result! The print or the scan of it, has quite a bit of contrast. Consider going down a bit in contrast, this could change the border. I assume your easel is just keeping the paper flat and has no visual role on the outside of the border? I don't know what a speedeasel does, except the word speed frightens me when it comes to analog printing. Now you just experiment further 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share #46  Posted December 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, M.Hilo said: I assume your easel is just keeping the paper flat and has no visual role on the outside of the border? I don't know what a speedeasel does, except the word speed frightens me when it comes to analog printing. This is correct, it does only one thing: keep the paper flat and fixed white borders. I think it is speedy because nothing can be adjusted! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for the contrast suggestion too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for the contrast suggestion too. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326504-negative-carriers-size-for-black-borders/?do=findComment&comment=4338049'>More sharing options...
stray cat Posted December 24, 2021 Share #47 Â Posted December 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is looking fantastic, Aryel.I really like the setup of the second print, too. Someone who did black borders and all sorts of variations on them really well was Diane Arbus. It's well worth having a look at a lot of her prints (the borders are way down the list of why it is worth looking at her work, but thet are great in their own right). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share #48  Posted December 25, 2021 21 hours ago, stray cat said: This is looking fantastic, Aryel.I really like the setup of the second print, too. Someone who did black borders and all sorts of variations on them really well was Diane Arbus. It's well worth having a look at a lot of her prints (the borders are way down the list of why it is worth looking at her work, but thet are great in their own right). Thanks a lot! I was familiar with a few of her photos (without knowing it was hers). I took a look and such amazing works. I just ordered ‘an aperture monograph’.  Interestingly, I did not really noticed the borders before looking again. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stray cat Posted December 25, 2021 Share #49  Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Aryel said: Thanks a lot! I was familiar with a few of her photos (without knowing it was hers). I took a look and such amazing works. I just ordered ‘an aperture monograph’.  Interestingly, I did not really noticed the borders before looking again. I'm glad you were aware of her work and have ordered a book. To my way of thinking there has been no greater photographer. Her borders are merely decorations on the icing on the cake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share #50  Posted December 25, 2021 Getting there. Thank you everyone. Just need to spend some time to explore more now. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! m2 or m3, not sure about the lens. Trix printed on mgfb and scanned. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! m2 or m3, not sure about the lens. Trix printed on mgfb and scanned. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326504-negative-carriers-size-for-black-borders/?do=findComment&comment=4338606'>More sharing options...
Ornello Posted December 27, 2021 Share #51  Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/25/2021 at 4:16 AM, Aryel said: Getting there. Thank you everyone. Just need to spend some time to explore more now. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! m2 or m3, not sure about the lens. Trix printed on mgfb and scanned. What kind of fish is that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share #52  Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ornello said: What kind of fish is that? It is tuna. Plenty of delicious dishes to tryout in the market based on fresh tuna (this was taken in Tokyo). Edited December 27, 2021 by Aryel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ornello Posted December 28, 2021 Share #53  Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Aryel said: It is tuna. Plenty of delicious dishes to tryout in the market based on fresh tuna (this was taken in Tokyo). How do you process your film? I invite you to view my recent tests of T-Max 400 and Delta 400 here:   Edited December 28, 2021 by Ornello 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share #54 Â Posted December 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Ornello said: I invite you to view my recent tests of T-Max 400 and Delta 400 here: Thanks for sharing! Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share #55  Posted January 8, 2022 Got a happy accident on this one: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I did not intend for the left margin to not be straight but I really like it this way. It almost follows the body inclination and it adds to the photo. It is more subtle on the print than on the scan though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I did not intend for the left margin to not be straight but I really like it this way. It almost follows the body inclination and it adds to the photo. It is more subtle on the print than on the scan though. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326504-negative-carriers-size-for-black-borders/?do=findComment&comment=4348238'>More sharing options...
M.Hilo Posted January 8, 2022 Share #56 Â Posted January 8, 2022 Aryel, how did that happen? Did that Tuna jinx your easel? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share #57  Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, M.Hilo said: Aryel, how did that happen? Did that Tuna jinx your easel? I simply misaligned one of the blade from the easel 😂. Getting re-acquainted with my rbb after months of ‘speed easel’. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hilo Posted January 9, 2022 Share #58 Â Posted January 9, 2022 It also looks like the sheet of paper was not in straight. and what's weird is that the top and right borders look to be masked off with the easel, but not the left and bottom borders that's quite an achievement, ha. But nothing to worry over, you'll get it right. The two bladed RRB easels are excellent! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aryel Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share #59  Posted January 13, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 3:06 PM, M.Hilo said: But nothing to worry over, you'll get it right. The two bladed RRB easels are excellent! I really like it, only trouble is sometimes it is a bit difficult for me to keep the paper straight. How do you insert the paper? Is there any tips to avoid touching the paper too much (beside practice)?   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! One thing that I never noticed before doing it and really enjoy is how the borders differ from negative to negative. They are really part of the image. This being said, on most of my images, the left and right borders do not come up black but bleed.  Is it related to the lens and aperture used whilst shooting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! One thing that I never noticed before doing it and really enjoy is how the borders differ from negative to negative. They are really part of the image. This being said, on most of my images, the left and right borders do not come up black but bleed.  Is it related to the lens and aperture used whilst shooting? ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/326504-negative-carriers-size-for-black-borders/?do=findComment&comment=4353487'>More sharing options...
M.Hilo Posted January 13, 2022 Share #60 Â Posted January 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Aryel said: This being said, on most of my images, the left and right borders do not come up black but bleed. Â Is it related to the lens and aperture used whilst shooting? I wondered about this too and do not understand it. You mean the left and right borders look white-ish, right? Perhaps someone else knows? I thought perhaps you're doing some experimental film developing, or using a weird film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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