The Dolomites in monochrome

[Vieri]

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Don't get me wrong, colours are great, but to me there just is something special in the graphic power of a B&W Fine Art landscape. Here a Dolomites landscape with human elements in it:

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Leica SL, Super-Vario-Elmar-SL 16-35mm. 150 sec.

Comments & critiques welcome. Best regards,

Vieri

[jaapv]

Would that be the Sella Group?

[Vieri]

25 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Would that be the Sella Group?

Hey Jaap, these are the Odle  Best regards,

Vieri

[jaapv]

Ah - that twin mountain confused me  

[jankap]

A great picture, in spite of B/W.

[Suuumm55]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb Vieri:

Don't get me wrong, colours are great, but to me there just is something special in the graphic power of a B&W Fine Art landscape. Here a Dolomites landscape with human elements in it:

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Comments & critiques welcome. Best regards,

Vieri

Hello Vieri,

i hereby accept your request for criticism

for me it is too dramatic a representation of the sky

this fantastic mountain group alone represents drama

my conclusion: sometimes less is more

Edited July 5, 2021 by Suuumm55

[otto.f]

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Mostly too much is too much, counts for digital sharpness too.

[jaapv]

3 hours ago, Suuumm55 said:

Hello Vieri,

i hereby accept your request for criticism

for me it is too dramatic a representation of the sky

this fantastic mountain group alone represents drama

my conclusion: sometimes less is more

Yes and no - I know the area well and the skies can often be as dramatic as the mountains themselves. But I think I can see what you mean. A lift of the midtones in curves would bring in more brightness and lighten the impression of the image. A more film-like tonal curve. Ansel Adams taught us the multiple variations of B&W landscape photography. <I quite like my version, but won't publish without permission>.
As for B&W I think it works fantastically here - in colour it would be a postcard, now it is a landscape.

 

[jaapv]

27 minutes ago, otto.f said:

Mostly too much is too much, counts for digital sharpness too.

I see no artifacts, just an incredible amount of detail.

[jankap]

Exposure 150 sec!

[stuny]

Beautiful!

[Suuumm55]

vor 19 Stunden schrieb jaapv:

Yes and no - I know the area well and the skies can often be as dramatic as the mountains themselves. But I think I can see what you mean. A lift of the midtones in curves would bring in more brightness and lighten the impression of the image. A more film-like tonal curve. Ansel Adams taught us the multiple variations of B&W landscape photography. <I quite like my version, but won't publish without permission>.
As for B&W I think it works fantastically here - in colour it would be a postcard, now it is a landscape.

 

i am happy to read your lines .....

you have a lot ahead of me because i have never visited this area -  i doubt if i would see this sky like that - i compare it with the northern lights in the north only in black and white

a lightening of the overall impression of the picture might do a good job, but i can't really imagine it in the final stage

i would always stay with my eyes in the sky and neglect the beautiful landscape

i agree with the color version versus the black and white version

[Vieri]

21 hours ago, jankap said:

A great picture, in spite of B/W.

Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!

19 hours ago, jankap said:

Exposure 150 sec!

Yes indeed!

Best regards,

Vieri

[Vieri]

21 hours ago, Suuumm55 said:

Hello Vieri,

i hereby accept your request for criticism

for me it is too dramatic a representation of the sky

this fantastic mountain group alone represents drama

my conclusion: sometimes less is more

Hello Suuumm55,

thank you for your comment. Art appreciation is personal, of course, so I am totally fine with people having different opinions on my work, and I know perfectly well that nothing I can say will change your perception - I am afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. That said, there's my view and mental process behind this image. For me, the drama in the sky is complementing and strengthening the dramatic, jutting shape of the mountains, in contrast with the more pastoral feeling of the lower part of the image. More, compositionally the diagonal lines created by the long-exposed clouds work well with the diagonals created by the sloe in pointing towards the mountains and towards the brighter area of the sky.

20 hours ago, jaapv said:

Yes and no - I know the area well and the skies can often be as dramatic as the mountains themselves. But I think I can see what you mean. A lift of the midtones in curves would bring in more brightness and lighten the impression of the image. A more film-like tonal curve. Ansel Adams taught us the multiple variations of B&W landscape photography. <I quite like my version, but won't publish without permission>.
As for B&W I think it works fantastically here - in colour it would be a postcard, now it is a landscape.

 

Thank you for your comment, Jaap. Good that you mentioned Ansel, since he dramatically changed his printing rendition of same negatives during the years, moving from lighter, brighter versions to darker ones. To me, the drama is accentuated by the relative darkness of the image (even though, the histogram covers all the spectrum, and all zones are represented), and applying a lift of the midtones would ruin that for me.

1 hour ago, Suuumm55 said:

i am happy to read your lines .....

you have a lot ahead of me because i have never visited this area -  i doubt if i would see this sky like that - i compare it with the northern lights in the north only in black and white

a lightening of the overall impression of the picture might do a good job, but i can't really imagine it in the final stage

i would always stay with my eyes in the sky and neglect the beautiful landscape

i agree with the color version versus the black and white version

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. It's the beauty of this wonderful thing called photography that we all love, and that let us express ourselves and our emotions in the most varied ways - as many as there are people.

Best regards,

Vieri

[Vieri]

21 hours ago, otto.f said:

Mostly too much is too much, counts for digital sharpness too.

 

21 hours ago, jaapv said:

I see no artifacts, just an incredible amount of detail.

Indeed, thank you Jaap! 

Best regards,

Vieri

[Vieri]

17 hours ago, stuny said:

Beautiful!

Thank you very much Stuart, glad you enjoyed it!

Best regards,

Vieri

[jaapv]

14 minutes ago, Vieri said:

and applying a lift of the midtones would ruin that for me.

1 hour ago, Suuumm55 said:

Reason I kept my tweak to myself, as the character change was clear. It put more emphasis on the human presence.
On NPN one member took an image of mine and completely destroyed its impact and intention by burning in the highlights. I was not pleased   

[Suuumm55]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb Vieri:

Hello Suuumm55,

thank you for your comment. Art appreciation is personal, of course, so I am totally fine with people having different opinions on my work, and I know perfectly well that nothing I can say will change your perception - I am afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. That said, there's my view and mental process behind this image. For me, the drama in the sky is complementing and strengthening the dramatic, jutting shape of the mountains, in contrast with the more pastoral feeling of the lower part of the image. More, compositionally the diagonal lines created by the long-exposed clouds work well with the diagonals created by the sloe in pointing towards the mountains and towards the brighter area of the sky.

thank you Vieri

for me it is simply inspiring to address photography in all its facets through discussions, but not to harm the individuality of each individual -

everyone is free in his own way -

but it is also important not to be afraid to discover a certain pros and cons as a consensus - that enlivens and does not lead to fear -

it does what you feel inside yourself while taking photos,still strength

the aspect with the diagonals sounds interesting

i assume you mean the white-gray mountain slopes by "schlehen "?   so different diagonal lengths (mountain and sky) are connected?

[Vieri]

On 7/6/2021 at 3:13 PM, Suuumm55 said:

thank you Vieri

for me it is simply inspiring to address photography in all its facets through discussions, but not to harm the individuality of each individual -

everyone is free in his own way -

but it is also important not to be afraid to discover a certain pros and cons as a consensus - that enlivens and does not lead to fear -

it does what you feel inside yourself while taking photos,still strength

the aspect with the diagonals sounds interesting

i assume you mean the white-gray mountain slopes by "schlehen "?   so different diagonal lengths (mountain and sky) are connected?

You are welcome. I don't speak german, so I have no idea what schlehen means in this context, sorry. About the diagonals, I mean the top-right -> mid-left diagonals in the clouds, and bottom-right -> mid left diagonals created by the slope where the huts lie. Hope this helps!

Best regards,

Vieri

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[Suuumm55]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb Vieri:

You are welcome. I don't speak german, so I have no idea what schlehen means in this context, sorry. About the diagonals, I mean the top-right -> mid-left diagonals in the clouds, and bottom-right -> mid left diagonals created by the slope where the huts lie. Hope this helps!

Best regards,

Vieri

Vieri,

no....unfortunately,  your statement doesn't help much

for me it reads like a map, but that also has something ......

thank you anyway

 

 

Edited July 8, 2021 by Suuumm55