Lens choice: creative consistency vs versatility?

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 My apologize for my English. I try to build phrases as simply as possible and give simple examples.

Otherwise google Translate won't be able to help me

Edited May 18, 2021 by capo di tutti capi

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So. We ask about something and listen to the answers without even knowing what the person is photographing. Everyone is watching from their tower.

[pippy]

9 minutes ago, capo di tutti capi said:

I apologize for my English. I try to build phrases as simply as possible and give simple examples.

Otherwise google Translate won't be able to help me

I do make allowance for English not being your first language but please bear in mind that whilst some photographers like the drama afforded by short focal-length lenses others prefer a different aesthetic. Neither viewpoint is superior to the other.

To describe the approach of those whose preferred lens focal-lengths are longer than your own preferences as being 'Blinkered' is simply to insult those photographers.

Philip.

[pippy]

16 minutes ago, capo di tutti capi said:

...Everyone is watching from their tower.

And from which tower do you watch?

Philip.

Edited May 18, 2021 by pippy

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8 minutes ago, pippy said:

And from which tower do you watch?

Philip.

You recommend 40mm or 50mm. But I don't even know what you're photographing. I don't understand the meaning of all the answers. The person writes "I use 24, 35, 50, 75 90". We all shoot different things.

Edited May 18, 2021 by capo di tutti capi

[a.noctilux]

8 minutes ago, pippy said:

And from which tower do you watch?

Philip.

Так. Мы о чем-то спрашиваем и выслушиваем ответы, даже не зная, что фотографирует человек. Все смотрят со своей башни

from Google traduction ?

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3 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

Так. Мы о чем-то спрашиваем и выслушиваем ответы, даже не зная, что фотографирует человек. Все смотрят со своей башни

from Google traduction ?

This means that everyone sees from their own side. Like artists who paint still lifes. Everyone is sitting on different sides.

[capo di tutti capi]

If you write that you use mostly 35mm - show that you mostly shoot.

what's the point of reading about people's experiences if you don't know what they do?

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[pippy]

14 minutes ago, capo di tutti capi said:

You recommend 40mm or 50mm. But I don't even know what you're photographing. I don't understand the meaning of all the answers. The person writes I use 24, 35, 50, 75 90. We all shoot different things.

But that's the whole point. You prefer to use lenses from 18mm to 24mm. Perfectly fine by me! I don't know what you are photographing but it doesn't make any difference; you prefer to shoot with lenses from 18 to 24 and that's all that matters!

You, on the other hand criticise, as being blinkered, photographers who prefer to use, say, 35mm to 75mm even although you don't know what they are shooting. How can you possibly adopt that position of superiority?

There is no range of focal lengths which is superior to any other, There is only personal preference.

Philip.

Edited May 18, 2021 by pippy

[oldwino]

I think much depends on the photographer’s way of seeing. For some, a 50 is too tight, too isolating. And yet, in the hands of someone else, say an Elliot Erwitt, the 50 gives context and background. 
I personally, and perhaps unfortunately, gravitate to 40mm, the “in between focal length”, for which my Leica has no framelines. 50mm feels a tad tight sometimes, 75 is useless for me, 35 a bit loose (and I’d rather use a 28 then for a “real” wide angle shot). 

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6 minutes ago, pippy said:

But that's the whole point. You prefer to use lenses from 18mm to 24mm. Perfectly fine by me! I don't know what you are photographing but it doesn't make any difference; you prefer to shoot with lenses from 18 to 24 and that's all that matters!

You, on the other hand criticise, as being blinkered, photographers who prefer to use, say, 35mm to 75mm even although you don't know what they are shooting. How can you possibly adopt that position of superiority?

There is no range of focal lengths which is superior to any other, There is only personal preference.

Philip.

You misunderstood. Too tough. For example, I was in Milan. And I brought a lot of small fragments. Used 50mm. In a year, I won't know which part of the city it was filmed in. It's like flipping through a home photo album. Then my grandmother came to visit. When? What holiday? What did you give me? What was on the table?

[lct]

Not only a matter of lenses. Not everybody sees the world the same way we see it. 

[a.noctilux]

3 minutes ago, lct said:

Not only a matter of lenses. Not everybody sees the world the same way we see it. 

No lens can see what we see, anyway.

[capo di tutti capi]

5 minutes ago, lct said:

Not only a matter of lenses. Not everybody sees the world the same way we see it. 

Then there's no point in answering. We don't know how others see it. No one shows it. Just lists the lenses.

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As for the lenses. I'll try to explain it more complicated. Here a man made a home photo album. Tells you what's going on in the photo. If he has amnesia? No one but him will remember what's going on there. It's the same with a narrow-angle lens. Especially when traveling. No one will understand in which part of the planet you took this picture. You need to make a story that will tell instead of you.

https://youtu.be/696MvVjPq6o

 

[pippy]

2 minutes ago, oldwino said:

I think much depends on the photographer’s way of seeing....

Completely.

Oddly enough (and as mentioned earlier) I, like you, favour the 40mm f/l but anyhow...

The rest of your post reminds me of a filmed conversation with Ansel Adams where he compared his own personal vision - that of large-scale momentous vistas from nature - with that of his dear friend Edward Weston whose attention was always arrested by the smaller details to be found in nature.

There is no Right or Wrong focal length.

As for this bit of nonsense from post #28;

"If you write that you use mostly 35mm - show that you mostly shoot.".........

Philip.

[lct]

5 minutes ago, capo di tutti capi said:

Then there's no point in answering. We don't know how others see it. No one shows it. Just lists the lenses.

Why so? You may like to show the world the way you see it and i may like the same. But we don't see the world the same way so our pics may be completely different. 

[pippy]

13 minutes ago, capo di tutti capi said:

You misunderstood. Too tough. For example, I was in Milan. And I brought a lot of small fragments. Used 50mm. In a year, I won't know which part of the city it was filmed in. It's like flipping through a home photo album. Then my grandmother came to visit. When? What holiday? What did you give me? What was on the table?

No! That's YOUR problem! Can't you understand that?

If I shoot with a 50mm lens - which I do - I will still know where the hell I was, when I took the snap, a year - or forty - later!

YOU didn't see / remember Milan. YOU didn't remember which part of the city you were in. YOU don't remember what was on the table. NOT US.

YOUR problems. Not to be confused with other photographers who use 50mm lenses.

YOUR problems.

Philip.

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13 minutes ago, lct said:

Why so? You may like to show the world the way you see it and i may like the same. But we don't see the world the same way so our pics may be completely different. 

andybarton wrote - "I have a 24 Elmarit-M ASPH, a 35 Summicron ASPH and a 50 Summilux ASPH. 

I find the combination just right for what I want to do and have no intention of ever buying any more lenses. I definitely will not be buying anything longer than the 50.

My most used lens is probably the 24, which I use without an external finder, sometimes with LV on my 240.

YMMV"

???   What is the profit without examples? How do we know what he's taking pictures of

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7 minutes ago, pippy said:

No! That's YOUR problem! Can't you understand that?

If I shoot with a 50mm lens - which I do - I will still know where the hell I was, when I took the snap, a year - or forty - later!

YOU didn't see / remember Milan. YOU didn't remember which part of the city you were in. YOU don't remember what was on the table. NOT US.

YOUR problems. Not to be confused with other photographers who use 50mm lenses.

YOUR problems.

Philip.

are you going to tell all the viewers what's in the picture and where it was taken? (Even to friends). In a year you'll forget it yourself

Edited May 18, 2021 by capo di tutti capi